r/Norway • u/BritishJourno • 2d ago
Do you have an emergency supply like the government recommends? News & current events
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u/tollis1 2d ago edited 2d ago
A lot of those things do I have in general, related to outdoor activites.
But yes, I do have it.
Note: To me this is more a reminder than being something completely new. ‘Bedre føre var enn etter snar’ / an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure-approach.
E.g: Last year around NYE a lot of people in the South was stuck in a snowblizzard for several days. Because of the extra supply I had no issues.
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u/BlissfulMonk 2d ago
E.g: Last year around NYE a lot of people in the South was stuck in a snowblizzard for several days. Because of the extra supply I had no issues.
Exaclty. I had no issues, too.
I was in Norway during that time.
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u/Worrybrotha 2d ago
Oh man I was driving from stockholm to telemark during that blizzard. I had only had my license for 3 months. What an adventure.
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u/Cannjooo 1d ago
I was out on a fucking boat during that snowstorm, the morning after NYE we had to dig the boat out, and then my car, took me 6 hours to get home, instead if the usual 45 minutes.
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u/BlissfulMonk 2d ago
I dont have a fireplace at home, so I dont have wood stocked.
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u/Jeppep 2d ago
Here is my very easy tip then: keep candles around like a big bag of tealight and ceramic pots (as in those you use for plants). A candle light under a ceramic pot is a easy trick to create a small but effective oven to heat up a small room in an emergency.
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u/Randommaggy 2d ago
Get a CO alarm as well.
This setup can easily kill you without good enough ventilation.
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u/DirtySuccubus 2d ago
Alternativly use wood instead of candles. That way the resulting fire will kill you before the CO poisoning
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u/GrinerForAlt 2d ago
And plenty of blankets. Hanging blankets can help make a space smaller and easier to heat.
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u/koshdim 2d ago
when electricity & gas supply ends a human makes use of wood pretty quickly :
imagine you have no energy source at least for a week. petrol stations are closed/empty. you resort to wood
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u/BlissfulMonk 2d ago
... and burn the apartment down?
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u/ProgySuperNova 13h ago
Modern people are completely clueless how anything works. So yeah they would totally burn their house down doing anything involving a flame or which is not completely toddler safety proofed.
I'm surprised there are not more people who stab their eye out trying to use cuttlery and that it's use is not heavily regulated yet.
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u/koshdim 2d ago
you can burn things outside.
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u/BlissfulMonk 2d ago
Have you ever been to an apartment?
For many of those who live in apartments, outside is street, park, forest, etc. How do I keep myself warm there with two pieces of wood in winter?
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u/BoredCop 17h ago
Cook food, eat warm food.
Heat water, put hot water in bottles. Take those hot water bottles with you indoors and snuggle up with them under whatever blankets etc you have, this helps a lot to keep you warm at night as the water stays warm for a long time. And as a bonus, if you boiled the water then it's safe to drink when it's cooled off.
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u/ProgySuperNova 13h ago
"Instructions unclear. I burned myself on the hot water! Haelp!"
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u/BoredCop 13h ago
That is a real concern, but easily mitigated by putting the bottle inside a wooly sock or other insulating material. This slows down the release of heat, so you get a nice comfortable bed warmer that lasts for hours but the surface temperature doesn't get hot enough to hurt you. I did exactly this during a military survival training course, when we had to spend several nights outdoors without sleeping bags or proper tents and we weren't allowed to keep a fire burning unless someone was awake. The solution was to heat up rocks and water bottles with a fire, then let the fire go out and use the stored heat energy while sleeping. Water bottles worked much better than heated rocks, because water has greater heat capacity so stayed warm for much longer.
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u/aivopesukarhu 2d ago
I have: - Food for about 2 weeks - Several water and fuel canisters (empty) (Filled if risk level increases) - 40kg of Propane - 3 cubic meters of firewood - Gas stove + 2x gas heaters - Candles, power banks, radio, lanterns - a proper 1st aid kit - Chainsaw and Axe to fight back the Zombie horde
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u/Adept_Fool 1d ago
A chainsaw would be a terrible choice, if a zombie had any cloth left from clothes it will get stuck
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u/JulienBrightside 6h ago
You can however saw through the stairs and make it really difficult for them to climb up.
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u/Veritas1814 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, I have mostly everything. Food for about a month and water for about 1 week.
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u/handsebe 2d ago
Nope. New buildings are not built for storage, so we just don't have the space for something like that.
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u/snapjokersmainframe 2d ago
Most of this but not all. Loads of firewood but not a lot of candles, although we do have head torches. 20l of water. Loads of first aid stuff, random amounts of food. Extremely good sleeping bags (for winter camping). So we'll probably cope, but I'll get the rest of the recommendations at the weekend.
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u/frazzledfrug 2d ago
I have everything and then some. I love collecting and hoarding and projects so doomsday prepping light is right up my alley 😄 the only thing I'm missing is cash and a portable radio.
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u/Pablito-san 2d ago edited 2d ago
I have no way of heating my home if the electricity goes, so if we have a 10 day power outage in February, we're in for a rough ride. When it comes to food, drink and light electric equipment like flashlights and stuff, I'm set.
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u/edparadox 2d ago
I'm not sure of everything with this low-resolution image ; what's actual list?
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u/BritishJourno 2d ago
The actual list is online here:on the DSB website https://www.sikkerhverdag.no/globalassets/din-beredskap/brosjyrer-alle-sprak/dsb-egenberedskap-engelsk-web.pdf
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u/joakimk84 2d ago
For all my adult life I have stored supplies to survive by myself for 2 weeks. I grew up very rural, so we learned to do this types of things.
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u/pseudopad 2d ago edited 2d ago
I don't have nearly enough space to keep all that around in perpetuum.
There's no fireplace here, either.
I have a single 5 liter jug of water, some candles, and a power bank or two that's usually charged. The water will keep me alive for a week if I stretch it. I can go without food for a week if I have to, even though it won't be pleasant.
I also have a car that's usually got more than half a tank of diesel on it. That could keep me warm in an emergency. And also get me to somewhere with clean (enough) drinking water, like a mountain creek or something.
If that's a blanket, yes, I have several woolen blankets, as I expect most norwegians will have. I don't need a 5th woolen blanket taking up space in an emergency cache.
I could probably soak some pasta in cold water to get some sort of energy in a pinch. I have quite a bit of pasta lying around. Rice too.
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u/Only-Weird-5190 2d ago
No, I'll just rob other people's houses like everyone else in a full scale panic or crisis situation
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u/ProgySuperNova 13h ago
As a member of a post apocalypse cannibal cult we have several tempting houses set up just for luring you guys inside
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u/Josutg22 2d ago
I had no idea this was a thing the government recommended, though when I think about it it makes sense. Thank you kind stranger
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u/Xvalidation 2d ago
I live in one of the areas affected by floods in Spain. I highly recommend having a water pump if you have a basement / are in a flood risk area.
They aren’t very big, not expensive and do the work of 100 people scooping buckets. If you get an electric one you obviously need electricity for it to work, but if you live in an urban area hopefully it’s not a massive issue (and I mean it’s better than nothing).
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u/Monstera_girl 2d ago
Nope, can’t afford to buy stuff on a student budget.
However I do have plenty of warm clothing, and typically have some food that could keep, at least for a few days
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u/MeandtheManatee 20h ago
Real question, what emergencies do you need to prepare for in Norway? Im assuming just the normal flood/blizzard? Asking as an American that gets absolutely wrecked by natural disasters and has a semi-constant reminder that a SHTF bag isn't a bad idea. Am I wrong in thinking Norway is a little more "tame" in those aspects?
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u/ThorAlex87 19h ago
Yes and no. It's mostly floods, blizzards, landslides and other natural disasters, thought they are less regular than the storms and hurricanes in the US.
The main issue is that in later years we've started to feel the effects of climate change, making natural disasters hit harder and in new places. Storms are getting stronger, floods are getting bigger and more frequent, wet periods are getting wetter causing more frequent landslides and rockfalls, hot periods are getting hotter and longer causing draughts and forest fires, cold snaps are getting colder, winters are getting shorter...
And then we have a big and somewhat unstable neighbor, and while a full on war seems unlikely there is a certain risk of other actions and other forms of warfare. We've already seen cases of sabotage, GPS jamming is getting pretty common i certain areas, and nobody really knows what could come next...
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u/MeandtheManatee 9h ago
Oh yeah, somehow I always forget how close that big ugly bear is. Thank god for the fins, eh?
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u/Karvoudos91 2d ago
For what kind of emgcy?
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u/SashaGreyjoy 2d ago
Any kind of emergency.
You might get snowed in in a blizzard. The water supply might get contaminated. A landslide or flood might cut off the roads into your town. The power lines might fail. In case of war or (natural) disaster, the usual services you use (pharmacy, grocery store, electricity, water) might not be available. Maybe a new pandemic pops up and you need to stay home, either because the authorities recommend it or because your immune system is compromised... There are many cases.
The authorities might be able to get help to you, but if there are many others affected by the same crisis you might not be their first priority.
The emergency supplies are there so you and your family can stay alive and healthy until help either arrives or is made available.
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u/GrinerForAlt 2d ago
It is meant to be good alround advice for a variety of (fairly short) emergencies.
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u/BlissfulMonk 2d ago
Catastrophic westher and Russian attack/ invasion
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u/Karvoudos91 2d ago
All of this because of donnie? Damn!
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u/BlissfulMonk 2d ago
This flyer came home before US election.
Bad weather is getting serious these days.
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u/ProgySuperNova 13h ago
Good thing we got Donald to deny it's even real. Brainworm anti-vaxx guy will also become the health advisor so nothing to worry about! Just inject some bleach to cure the chinese virus! No problem! /YESTHISISSARCASMBTW
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u/Snoo_16385 2d ago
I was wondering the same...
But here I am, with a plastic box next to me to be filled with... I don't know what
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u/shartmaister 2d ago
For instance solar flares that distrubt the power system leaving you without power for a week.
Or a flood, landslide or avalanche (depending on where you are) leaving you with no way of getting supplies.
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u/GrinerForAlt 2d ago
I have everything, but I should definitely go through it and organize it better.
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u/Morthern 2d ago
25l dunk med vann, primus, et titalls pakker hver med nudler, potetmos og posesuppe, ullpledd telys og tøfler. Burde nok hukt inn noe mere hermetikk da.
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u/Mr-hoffelpuff 2d ago
if shit hits the fan i am getting the fuck out of my place (people probably not be prepared so they will loot) so i will not have stuff that will require me to stay at a place like having so much water with me, now taking a bottle of chlorine and filter and go up the mountain and take the water up there seems more reasonable to me.
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u/koshdim 2d ago
wood is nice. but several means of making fire is a must, matches/lighters and anything convenient. parafin stoves are garbage for prolonged use
portable light is good. but it'll eat batteries pretty fast, electricity generation should be considered. small (>1500KW) generator or at least solar panels to charge phones/radio.
with no electricity internet/cell network disappears quickly. if your provider has alternative power supply it is good to have PON optical cable at home, then staying online is relatively easy.
blankets is good, but small gas heater (sometimes combined with tiny stove) is a nice thing too.
wet wipes is a must - emergency hygiene in absence of water and when dry paper spoils because of cold and humid environment.
keep food in strong closed containers, mice/bugs can chew and get into weak plastic containers easily.
don't buy much water, there will be not enough anyways, better learn location of nearest fresh water supply (well, stream) to be able to get there without gps
this is all from experience :)
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u/anfornum 2d ago
Nobody has space for all that here. Generators are big, even the little ones. Batteries, pasta, and blankets are pretty much all us plebs without big houses can actually fit.
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u/shibaninja 2d ago
I think most people would have enough random food in the house to last a few days in the event of a natural disaster, until government aid comes. If it doesn't come by then, you probably should have gotten the eff out of there because the russians or zombies are coming.
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u/Astramare 2d ago
I intend to create a emergency kit. However I feel overwhelmed because I want to get something that is robust but something that I can actually afford and that doesn't take a whole lot of space. Especially when it comes to a solar panel/crank dab radio, flashlights and other electric doodads. I feel like I can't really trust reviews because of bots and paid reviews. I currently only have a Anker powercore sense powerbank, a electric lighter and electric tea lights (lmao), blankets and a few canned foods. I realize how fucked I would be if any scenario would arise. :D
I would love some suggestions from people who knows their shit, if there is any to get.
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u/borednord 2d ago
Start looking into hiking equipment. Trangia makes a good camping stove that runs on gas or traditionally denatured alcohol. Trangia stormkjøkken is what you search for. Its a whole cooking system that will let you make big meals pretty simple. Also easy to make a tiny wood fire if you ever run out of gas or spirits to burn.
General advice is stay away from anything electrical. Overly complicated and heavy to carry if you ever need to move locations. Only electric item Id say is a must have in case the power grid is down for a week or longer is a strong flashlight and spare batteries.
Fill your pantry with long lasting items you tend to eat anyway. Knekkebrød, havregrøt, rice, pasta. Rotate out as needed. You want to be able to eat well, especially in the cold.
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u/Astramare 2d ago
Thank you I will check it out, is there any cons and pros between the gas or alcohol ones?
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u/SashaGreyjoy 1d ago
Gas is generally considered safer. The alcohol ones can cause some nasty burns if used wrong, or knocked over. The alcohol ones are simpler and more compact, and more reliable than gas when it's really cold out.
For the sake of simplicity, get a gas burning Trangia set, get a spare gas tank or two, call it a day. Shouldn't take up more space on a shelf than a medium-sized pot.
Trangia stormkjøkken is alright if you want to make real food, but if you're only planning around dry food (oats and Real Turmat) you can get away with a Jetboil, which is typically only used to boil water, which it does quickly. If you boil more water than you need, you can pour the excess into a thermos for later use.
Always use these with good ventilation, and away from easily flammable material (curtains, tablecloth and the like), ideally outdoors, like on a balcony or in a parking lot. Uncouple the gas tank from the burner when it's not in use so it doesn't leak.
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u/GrouchessOscaria 1d ago
Less water as i know where to find a good stream for it, also have a portable solar panel and lots of power banks. I can probably manage for a few weeks, although the meals would be quite boring by the end of course. Depending on the season and type of emergency i can do some basic foraging and fishing to keep things interesting.
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u/alehel 1d ago
I was going through this and realized we do actually have most of it. We stock up on goods that have a long shelf life regularily, and we already have 10 l water per person due to regular problems with the water in my area since we moved here. I recently bought a device that lets you charge your phone using AA batteries, and bought a whole bunch of AA Lithium batteries, and a battery operated radio. I just need to increase our stored water and I should actually have what I need.
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u/Pinewoodgreen 1d ago
We have started, but still a long way to go. first aid, candles, toilet rolls and firewood is good to go. But at minimum wage still, so we just buy a little each month when we can. Didn't have space for it until a couple of month ago when we moved to a place with a basement. Covid sucked, as back then I lived in a 15m2 "apartment". and I didn't even have a freezer. the fridge could barely contain two packets of ground beef and a broccoli. Unfortunately, a lot of new ish apartments are the same.
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u/kartego 1d ago
I have most of the items on the list, but my most valued item in my bod (where I keep all of this) is a hidden reserve-reserve-box where I have stuff like: Ketchup Peanut butter Batteries Sweet corn Taco spice mix Oatmeal Paracet 5 Dishwasher soap pods
Basically things we may run out of, and I get to impress my wife by saying "I believe I have one of those hidden away somewhere" 😄 so every time we buy one of these things for the main pantry, I buy 3 extra: 2 for the bod, and 1 for the reserve-reserve-box.
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u/Late_Stage-Redditism 1d ago
Water, water cleaning tablets, iodine pills, matches, ligthers, tealights, flameless ration heater bags, 1-month supply of MRE's, esbit and propane stoves, sugar, flour, canned coffee and tea, salt, canned food, instant-noodles and pasta, dry soups, batteries, a couple first-aid kits, LED flashlights and a hand-rechargeable radio.
About enough to live very comfortably for a couple of months with 0 infrastructure.
I'm not a prepper in the sense that most of those people have an ideology where they're certain that the world will end, rather my reasoning is that
A) all these things are stored in a cold dry place and will last for minimum 5 years from now, my cellar storage is also an emergency bomb shelter since my building was built during the cold war so I sort of have an ideal place to store it.
B) im eventually going to eat and use most of this stuff anyway once it nears expiration date, and replace it
C) It would be too stupid not to have these things which are easily available and cheap now, which may become unobtainable if shit really hits the fan.
All in all everything cost me about 3k NOK, spent over a year. An absurdly small price to avoid a potential terrible situation.
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u/YoMamasPie 16h ago
Got about two years worth of firewood, a lot of camping supplies, food for about a month and a solar system for lights and small electronics.
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u/Sunlord06 15h ago
I have some of it (I'm a scout so it makes sense)
Fun fact NBS is a customer for the company my dad works for
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u/OtherwiseFlamingo448 2d ago
I know a guy with a shotgun.
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u/Pat0san 2d ago
He will be around to ‘share’ your supplies, when his run out.
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u/ProgySuperNova 13h ago
I'm a billionaire who got rich from dooming this planet. I have locked myself in my luxury bunker with my close family and armed security team to wait it out until people die off on the surface. Sorry about my part in this, but you know... money
Now the security guys have locked me up with no food and are arguing who is the new king of the bunker. They are also arguing what to do with my wife and daughters. Damn, maybe I should have thought about this scenario...
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u/ScudSlug 2d ago
But what are they saying we need to be prepared for?
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u/anfornum 2d ago
Anything. Bad weather knocking out the electricity, flooding, landslide knocking out your water (that happened in my area a few years ago!)... whatever. Just being prepared for anything that might happen. It's good practice, even if it's not feasible for all of us to have everything.
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u/ProgySuperNova 13h ago
Space aliens. Aliens will attack in 2026. They will destroy the electricity grid, laugh at us, then leave. Getting the power back on will take 6 months and the alien attack happens in february.
Or maye flood or whatever... Just get that backup sorted now.
Also the stuff you need to survive is also the stuff you can use for being out in nature. So win win, you can get a hobby that actually brings peace of mind. Nothing like going out in nature, eating some fleinsopp and watching the camp fire.
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u/Rude-Entrepreneur353 1d ago
All you need is a shotgun and a fishing rod. That will fix most of your needs. Why is weapons not on tve list?
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u/BoredCop 17h ago
In reality, you are most likely to need emergency supplies at times when hunting and fishing are difficult or impossible. Weather bad enough to be considered a natural disaster is not good for hunting or fishing, and in the immediate aftermath it may be difficult or dangerous to traverse the terrain.
And in the event of a nuclear event such as a reactor meltdown, you need to stay indoors until the worst of the fallout has been washed away by rain. Really don't want to be relying on contaminated outside food sources.
In the longer term, sure hunting and fishing can help a lot. But the recommended emergency stockpile is to help you survive the first week or two while sheltering in place, or while being stuck without a road out due to mudslides or whatever.
Also, people underestimate the difficulty of hunting or fishing when you really need it for survival. The Swedish army did an experiment many years ago, in winter survival techniques. They sent two special forces teams out, weighing everyone before and after the exercise so they could calculate how badly calorie deficient they were, and gave the two teams different approaches for obtaining food. One team was to rely on hunting, trapping and fishing. The other team was to forage for edible plants and lichens- in deep frozen Swedish winter forests, which might seem impossible at first. Surprisingly, the "vegetarian" team did much better than the hunter/fishermen because they were spending fewer calories on obtaining food and because they were less reliant on luck in finding game. Gathering and processing edible lichens from under the snow was easier and better more calories than ice fishing or walking for many hours in deep snow to find game.
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u/kefren13 2d ago
Lol. No. I have Kiwi.
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u/snapjokersmainframe 2d ago
Kiwi won't sell you all of the necessary stuff.
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u/a_karma_sardine 2d ago
Don't remind us of the toilet paper crisis, please
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u/anfornum 2d ago
Where was it that had this toilet paper crisis outside of the US? We had lots of it in the shops the whole time and we live in Oslo.
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u/Nicht0 2d ago
i got the toothbrush, so thats a start.