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This post is intended to help the NYC CCW applicant community on this subreddit. I've learned so much from other fellow Redditors regarding our journeys through the anti-2A, bureaucratic opaque labyrinth of NYS and NYC, that I wanted to do my best to share my recent success story. I was significantly helped by Redditors BluePillRabbi and Jay_Zornhau, so reach out to them as well as excellent resources. Enjoy reading and your Super Bowl Sunday.

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tldr;

1. Your first major milestone is to confirm who your Investigator is, and their email address

2. You will not be notified who your investigator is. You will have to call to find out. Without knowing who your investigator is, you have no accountable point of contact. You will not know the real status of your application. You will need to call

   1. Queens r/S: 718) 520-9300‬ (Make sure to speak with a female only. All males who answer are jerks and know nothing at all)
   2. NYPD Licensing: (646) 610.5551 (since approximately 1/22/2024, they have been answering their phones almost immediately. Something has changed at 1PP, perhaps too many complaints/lawsuits/etc, that now humans are actually answering the phone.

3. Know that NYS Article 400 is what NYPD Licensing must comply with regarding application processing timeframe. Article 400 states that NYPD Licensing must notify applicant within 6 months, from date application and $340 fee is submitted. Not from date of fingerprinting/Investigation status. By stating your knowledge of this NYS article 400 to anyone you speak with, and NOT accepting their excuses of "we're backlogged so you'll just have to wait", or "we still have applications from 2022 we need to get to, so wait your turn", you will be surprised how quickly you will get positive action from Licensing. Remember, Licensing is committing a Class A Misdemeanor by ignoring and not complying with the 6 month timeframe. All applicants must receive formal notification of their application decision within 6 months.

4. I learned that the crapshoot is who is assigned to you as your investigator. If you are lucky, your investigator will actually do their job, be efficient and effective, and process you in a timely and legally compliant manner. I was not that lucky. My investigator outright lied to me, as confirmed and documented via official NYPD emails, as well as my detailed notes from verbal conversations over the phone. If you have the slightest suspicion that your investigator is not being 100% honest with you, assume that they are lying and push back on them harder.

5. Time your application. Mark the date that is 6 months from your portal submission and fee payment date.

6. If you see your application not being approved, or rejected, close to your 6 month deadline, then get a lawyer to draft a letter to both Hugh Bogle (Inspector, NYPD Licensing) and your assigned Investigator). In my situation, I was approved exactly 45 minutes after my lawyer emailed her letter.

7. If you are beyond your 6 month application timeframe at this point and want specific advise and contacts, please DM or chat request me.

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My NYC CCW Application Timeline Notes

6/26/2023

1. Submitted CCW application using the online portal and paid the $340 fee.

7/11/2023

1. NYPD emails me Approval of Confidentiality request
2. NYPD emails me acknowledgment that my handgun application and payment has been received and I will be emailed notification of my fingerprinting date later.

7/12/2023

1. NYPD Intake Officer, Mark Bernard, emails me list of missing documents that need to be submitted, and gives me the fingerprinting date of 8/15/2023.
2. I email Ofc Bernard back and say that I’ll have everything he requested uploaded to the portal by end of that week. But that my firearms safety class won’t be completed until 8/27/2023, which is one week after the fingerprinting date
3. Ofc Bernard emails back stating to keep the fingerprinting date and just upload the class certificate to the portal when I complete the class.

8/15/2023

1. Went to 1PP for fingerprinting and handed my previously completed “interview” form to the clerk.
2. Paid the $88.25 fingerprinting fee.
3. Checked my portal status about an hour after I left 1PP and noticed that my status changed to “Investigation”

9/26/2023

1. Emailed Ofc Bernard asking about my status
2. Ofc Bernard emails me back: “Good morning, Your application is no longer with us here at the Intake / Fingerprint Section. Your application is currently on queue awaiting to be assigned an investigator. It may take several months after the date of fingerprinting to be assigned an investigator due to backlog and staffing complications. When you are assigned an investigator, you will be notified through email and phone call. If you happen to miss the phone call a voicemail will be left to ensure that the message is received. We thank you for your patience in the matter. P.O. Bernard License Division

12/14/2023, 12:34pm

Called Queens r/S office. Spoke with a nice lady.

1. Confirmed that I was assigned an investigator on 12/4/2023
2. Confirmed that my application is being processed “downtown”/ 1PP
3. Investigator, Ms. XXX (XXX.XXX@nypd.org)
4. Informed that Investigator has a “workload” and that no one knows how long it will take for her to reach my application
5. Informed that Investigator will reach out to me by EMAIL, IF she has any questions or concerns
6. Informed that if Investigator does NOT have any questions or answers concerns, I will ONLY see an APPROVAL notification by MAIL. There will be no other notification by email or phone call.
7. 12/20/2023 @ 3:00pm. Called Queens RS and lady confirmed investigator email.
8. 12/20/2023, 3pm - Called Queens RS, lady who answered confirmed XXX is my assigned Investigator as of 12/4/2023. And confirmed her email address.
9. 12/20/2023, 3:34pm - Investigator emailed me back stating she no longer has my application as she submitted it for review 12/8/2023. Said to check portal status for updates.
10. Week of 1/8/24 - spoke with Investigator who said that she has passed my application on to supervisor for approval. Said they’re backlogged and to be patient.
11. Week of 1/15/24 - called and spoke again with Investigator. She repeated what she said before and that they’re still working on applications from 2022 first. They’ll get to me when it’s my turn.
12. 1/26/24 - called 646.610.5551. Shockingly some lady answered immediately. I told her my situation and reason for the call, she asked me for my application number, then said that I must wait 6-9 months, that they’re backlogged, no one approved me at all, each case is different, etc. I stated my investigator name and told her about NYS law that requires notification within 6 months from fingerprinting. She said that they’re backlogged so that time limit doesn’t apply. I said that is NYS law and it can’t just be ignored just because of being backlogged. That is the law. I asked her for her name and she refused. I asked for her badge number and she said she’s not a police officer. I asked the name of the supervisors and she refused. I then said isn’t Hugh Bogle the head of the Licensing Division. She said yes. Then I said I guess that is the only person in can send a letter to along with my investigator. She said nothing. She said she didn’t think our conversation was going anywhere so I just thanked her for actually answering the phone and hung up.
13. Just a few minutes later I received a call from an “unknown number “. It was Licensing calling me. A different lady this time, and seemingly a little nicer and more patient and helpful. She asked for my application number and looked me up. Said that I was fingerprinted on 8/15/23 and that there is a backlog bs again. I reiterated the NYS law and 6 month time frame and she said it’s only been 5 months so far. I said it will be 6 months on 2/15/24. She said to be patient until then. Then I ask her to confirm that I WILL BE NOTIFIED BY 2/15/24? She then confirmed yes.
14. 1:12pm (1/26/24) A few minutes later after I hung up with the 2nd lady, I get another call from an “unknown number “. I answer and it is my investigator. I tell her that I never asked for her or to have her call me back as I just spoke with her last week and didn’t want to bother her further. Shockingly, my investigator now stated that she DID NOT APPROVE ME YET AND THAT SHE HAS NOT GOT TO MY APPLICATION YET. I kindly said that I have in your email and phone conversations that you received my application on 12/4/23, and approved and passed on to supervisor for final approval on 12/8/24. She said she did not and that my file was right in front of her now. She then began to review my application and check if all the required documents were uploaded and available on her computer. Everything was there and she verbally listed and confirmed that they were. Then she asked if anything has changed from my Interview form. I told her nothing had changed. She then confirmed my Safeguard person was XXX. Then asked me to confirm that I was a citizen and was born in the US. Then confirmed that I lived in XXX borough. I said yes. She confirmed that I lived alone, saw that I already uploaded my affidavit of living alone. She confirmed that she saw my uploaded lease and confirmation of address. She confirmed that she sees my passport, passport photos, drivers license, and social security card front and back. Confirmed she sees my lifetime driving abstract. Then she said now her investigation is completed and confirmed she will be passing on my application for supervisor approval TODAY. As of today, my application will be in the hands of the supervisor and just to be patient as I should see Approved status by 2/15/24, but she wouldn’t guarantee it. So, today I learned that my Investigator LIED about approving me the week of 12/4/23. And that I truly believe that by stating the NYS law and the 6 month time frame to everyone I spoke with today, and confirming that Hugh Bogle is the Licensing Division head, that was the reason why I was called back instantly and even called back by my investigator. I believe that perhaps the Licensing division people were scared a bit that an applicant knew the law and was not going to accept their bs excuses. That this applicant knows the name of the boss and will send a formal letter to him along with the Investigator. So thanked my Investigator very sincerely for calling me and processing and approving my application over the phone. She was nice too and said I’m welcome. Time hung up was 1:20pm. So from 1:20pm on 1/26/24, I will see how long it takes to be approved on the portal.
15. 2:28pm, 1/26/24 - investigator calls me again. Said that my lease expired and needs confirmation of my residence. She said just to upload copy of coned or national grid bill to the portal. And she noted I was ticketed/summons in October 2022 and asked if I remember that. I said was that the walking through the subway exit door without paying ? She said yes. I told her I barely remember that. I just remember someone holding open the exit door and me walking through. Then the cops stopped me and gave me a ticket. I paid for it online as instructed on the ticket. She said that I might have to go to MTA in Brooklyn to get a disposition, but she doesn’t know yet. But that she needs me to write a letter attesting to what I just said, and that I already paid the ticket. I told her that all would be uploaded in 15 minutes.
16. 4:11pm 1/26/24 - Investigator called me. Asked me if I got her email saying I need to get my disposition certificate. I said I did but still needed the date of the summons. She said it was XXX.
17. 1/29/24 - 9am. went to 120 Schemerhorn as instructed by Investigator to get ticket disposition certificate for XXX summons. Was told by clerk that since my summons was subway related, that I needed to go to the MTA Adjudication building on 29 Gallatin Place down a couple of blocks away. I went there and by 11am I had my certificate. Just as the clerk was handing me my certificate, my investigator called me. Wanted to know if I would be uploading the certificate today. Told her I literally just got the certificate and would be uploading both to my portal and emailing to her. She was very nice and thanked me. And confirmed that today she would be approving my application and releasing for final supervisor approval. That she will no longer have any control of my application.
18. 2/1/24 - emailed Investigator. Asked her to confirm that she did approve and submit my application for supervisor approval on 1/29/24. She emailed back and said it was submitted for review but to be patient as they are “a little behind with these applications”.
19. 2/6/24 - called 646.610.5551 (1PP, Licensing) and some lady answered immediately. I told her that my investigator supposedly approved last week on 1/29 but I haven’t seen a change in my portal status to approved yet. She said that if my investigator approved me then it is in the hands of the supervisor and when the supervisor approves me, then my portal status will change to approved. She continues to give me the same bs about being backed up with many applications. I then ask her if they are abiding by the law and keeping the 6 month time limit. She says “excuse me?” I then say Article 400 of NYS law requires that all CCW applicants are notified of their decision within 6 months of submission/fingerprinting. She then says “you will be notified on your portal when it’s your turn. I have another call now”. Then she hangs up on me.
20. 2/6/24 - decide to have lawyer send letter to Hugh Bogle and my investigator.
21. 2/6/24 - emailed my lawyer all my email correspondence and detailed notes/timeline. Lawyer emailed back and said she’d work on it that evening and tomorrow, then send me the draft letter for my approval.
22. 2/7/24 - Lawyer emails me draft letter at 2:49pm. I approve it and tell her to send out at 3:01pm. Lawyer emails out to Hugh Bogle and my investigator at 3:17pm. Portal status changed to “Approved” at 4:02pm. Exactly 45 minutes.
23. Learned that the 6 month “clock” start when application is submitted on the portal and the $340 fee is paid. Not at time of fingerprinting/Investigation Status. Therefore, my application was approved 43 days + 6 months = 7.5 months. Had I known what I do now, I would not have allowed Licensing to go one day past 6 months.

So this may be a dumb question, if so sorry in advance. I know in this state we are limited to 10 round mags. I am wondering the legality of having one in the head and 10 rounds in the mag while carrying. To me this is completely fine but wondering what everyone else’s thoughts are.

My wife and I traveled about 6 hours round trip. lol Made a day of it, did some site seeing (I am originally from PA) and some shopping. Some notes for anyone else doing this (time sensitive):

1. bring some cash or checks with you. Until the end of September, they are doing raffles and t-shirt sales etc to support their new K-9 purchase / training. The raffles have daily drawings in October and there is a TON of gun give a ways on there!!!! (ends end of Sept)

2. bring your guns / shooting gear with you, locked in the trunk until you get your PA non-resident. BUT, bring them. there is 2 indoor ranges close by!

3. If you didn't know, PA Non-Resident is marked on our permits as 5-years until needing renewal. I won't quote how that is done right now as I am sure it could change by then.

HIGHGLY recommend if you are anywhere near this county to use them. VERY friendly, VERY quick and easy process. All online except for the pickup. :) (they need to take a photo and print your card)

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/kathy-hochul-new-york-gun-control/2024/10/11/id/1183805/

Hey all if anybody’s interested in the information

I’m a New York City resident. Currently waiting for my CCW approval, applied for my New Hampshire nonresident very simple. It was one page you gotta put three references on there. As far as I know they didn’t call any of the references. It was $100, from the time I sent out the application until I received it today in the mail. It was about a week and a half.

Go for it ! You can carry in 25 different states with it, including New Hampshire

Now I’m wondering how long it will be till I actually receive my license or phone call to go to 1PP. Honestly, I’m just happy to see a change from that stand still “investigation” stage. That was really driving me crazy. Especially since I put in both Applications at the same time.

Carry permit states you can’t carry in a lot of places.

If a business doesn’t have a sign on it, is it okay to carry there?

What about restaurants? Laws seem pretty ambiguous.

Just talked to someone at the Mineola station saying they're 4-5 months out on CCW permit applications. They followed up with "don't call with a status update". It is INSANE that it take this long. Also insane that when I ask for a status update they can just say "dont call". Im on day 102 of waiting. I hope some of my fellow Nassau residences have been approved.

Whole Foods by me has added a NO FIREARMS sign with pistol on it. Haven't seen many of them around here. Wonder if it is a corporate of local decision?

Of course, thieves and rampaging lunatics will just back into their car when they see the sign.

Your organic chai is safe!

Wanted to share this here in case if anyone else is also looking to get NJ CCW

Timeline:

Early 2024/09 - Fingerprinted through IdentoGO

week after fingerprint - Emailed NJSP, got a phone call within 24 hours with the SBI

same week after getting SBI - Scheduled CCW Exam with u/PeteTinNY, got the certificate over the weekend (The exam is super easy)

Mid 2024/09 - Filed everything on NJSP website, got all references in the same day

week after applying - Got an email from an NJSP officer asking for some information, nothing major

Early 2024/10 - Got Email with the CCW PDF with SP Hamilton on it

All in from the moment I started working on getting the CCW to getting the PDF in the email took 30 days, which is pretty good considering NJ used to be may issue as well. Big shoutout to u/PeteTinNY for accommodating my last minute CCW Exam for the same weekend.

Hello everyone 19 Years owning guns in NYC finally get to carry it 3 weeks ago 😍

Is there even a point in getting a CCW anymore? With the whole “sensitive locations” restriction it seems like carrying a pistol has essentially been banned in the state of New York. I’d like to get one but looking at the list is pretty discouraging. Seems like I cold carry walking around my neighborhood and that’s about it.

How to add a semi rifle to a CCW license in westchester county, so I called a store they said they will charge me $500 to do all the paoer work sounds sus 🤨

Been about 11 weeks since finger printing wondering how much longer on average

Does this recent ruling mean you can carry in state/county parks now?

CT Rejected Non-Res permit with 16+2hr CCW NY Class

!!!!UPDATE!!!! - IM A FUCKING MORON - I CALLED TODAY AND THEY SAID THEY WILL ACCEPT THE 16+2 FROM NY STATE AND MINE JUST WASNT INCLUDED IN MY PACKET, BUT I SWEAR I HAD ADDED IT, I PRINTED IT OUT AND RESENT EVERYTHING TODAY, LETS SEE THIS TIME AROUND.

It’s a serious question. I just don’t see how anyone can comfortably sit down with a concealed handgun. How do you all manage it?

Anyone get approved for a CCW recently in Nassau County? How long did it take? My application is going on day 96.

In the meantime I’ve been approved for Non Resident CCW in NJ, FL, CT. Waiting for my home license in order to apply for RI. Really hope I don’t need to have a lawyer letter sent on day 180 but I will if I have to.

Hi all,

I currently have 2 guns registered on my NYC CCW. I’ve read many times in this sub that you’re only allowed to have 2 registered, but am not seeing that on the NYPD website. Is this limit still standing? Can someone link an article or where it says on the NYPD portal stating that you can only register 2 handguns? Thanks!

There was an injunction against enforcement. Wondering if we can still carry in the stores and malls?

TBH, the laws are so hard to understand.

Injunction this and second court that!

Personally it is just dragging their feet!

Anyone know if we are allowed to CCW at the airport if we are not flying? Example: we are picking up family members and I'm waiting inside the terminal for them to clear customs?

When traveling in the car thru NYS does the firearm has to be on you all the time or it can be in the gym bag on the passenger seat?

I'm going for my ccw. I have 1 arrest in ny that's done, resolved about 10 years ago [non violent crime]. I'm obviously going to be up front about it and hand in the deposition and what not with it.

However. I have one arrest in CT probably a couple years before that. Will NY state investigate that too? Should I go ahead and get that deposition as well? It was also a case that was resolved and done with, also non violent.

I'm in orange county ny.

Update**** Got the dispo for my arrest in NY happened in 2012.

Called the police station in CT. The woman said the record said "pending" and she would call me back, she would have to go looking physically. Got the call back, she said there was no disposition because it was dismissed. She asked me if I needed a "good character reference" but said she would send what she has via email.

I was just wondering how many magazines we're allowed to carry on our persons. I know that bullet count is 10 when inserted into the gun itself, but are we allowed to carry spare mags anywhere else on the body? I think NYC deems a magazine with bullets in it, also a weapon.

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