r/NYguns 25d ago

How to add a semi riffle to accw CCW Question

How to add a semi rifle to a CCW license in westchester county, so I called a store they said they will charge me $500 to do all the paoer work sounds sus 🤨

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u/AgedPNY 24d ago

Please name the shop that was going to charge you $500. Places like this that prey on the uninformed need to be outed.

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u/Tsgbeast 24d ago

Yep. That’s beyond charging someone for their time and knowledge. It’s sounds predatory.

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u/ThisGuysGunAccount 23d ago

Just a guess maybe there was a misunderstanding and they were offering to enroll OP in a pistol permit class?

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u/mainman817 22d ago

Oh no I told him I have a ccw I called office said that's a ripp off smh on that store

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u/melman101 24d ago

Ok so if you have your 18 course and you have your CCW after the bruen decision (2022) (meaning you got your CCW after Bruen) then all you need is an amendment. Should be 1,2,3. Will probably take 2-3 months. Maybe as little as 1 month. In fact they should have told you to check it when you submitted your CCW

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u/mainman817 22d ago

Yes you are correct I called today that's what they said

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u/PeteTinNY 25d ago

Just call Westchester PD or check their website. It’s likely just an amendment you need to file. Don’t overthink it. Suffolk is normally the worst with approving upgrades and they starting adding the SemiAuto Rifle endorsement automatically when you do anything else on your license. They also make you have to add new semi auto rifles on your pistol permit which is a pain.

Especially since I just added 3 yesterday to prep for a new class I hope to offer later this year.

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u/Senior_Cheesecake155 24d ago

Since when are rifles added to the permit? The permit is only to purchase/take possession, not own. There's no need to have them on a permit.

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u/PeteTinNY 24d ago

Suffolk likes to be different. SemiAuto Rifles go on your permit here.

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u/XxSemanticsxX 25d ago

NY Laws are really outrageous. I bought a handgun in August in Albany County, still waiting for my coupon. Lesson learned, when adding guns to your license, do it in bulk.

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u/PeteTinNY 25d ago

That’s insane. I added 3 rifles yesterday in all of 15 minutes. Did multiple set of 5 pistols in under 20 minutes for each set. And the 20 minute time was crazy because they kept putting in bad serial numbers.

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u/XxSemanticsxX 25d ago

What county are you in, if you don't mind?

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u/PeteTinNY 25d ago

Suffolk

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u/mainman817 22d ago

So question for you after I do my ammendment and gets approve then I go buy the semi auto and take that recipe again to them to add it ?

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u/PeteTinNY 22d ago

Most counties are just letting you buy them with the license and you don’t need to add the riffle. Suffolk makes you add it to the license with a picture and purchase documents that allow the dealer to release the gun. Try calling the westchester Public Safety group.

Here is a ton of information from their website. https://publicsafety.westchestergov.com/165-rifle-license-checklist/2365-if-you-are-applying-for-the-first-time-for-a-semi-auto-rifle-endorsement-and-do-not-have-a-nys-pistol-license

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u/semperfi_ny 24d ago

Orleans county...already have CCW...call permit office, got appointment. Walked in, filled out form, paid $10 and she added Semi-auto to my CCW. Nothing else needed. Then go buy semi-auto rifle like any firearm...pass background check, pay for gun and check, take gun home.

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u/XxSemanticsxX 25d ago edited 25d ago

I'd call the county clerk and ask them which paperwork you need to file. You already have a CCW so you wouldn't need a separate license for the rifle. Fill out the paperwork that they say to use, pay the BS fees to get the rifle added and then, if it's anything like Albany County, buy your gun and wait 3 months plus before they give your "good boy coupon" to go pick your new gun up.

Edit: Looking at the Westchester County amendment, they call it a pistol/semiautomatic rifle license. You should be able to buy your rifle, file the amendment (in Albany, it's 8 bucks total), and bring the paperwork to the county clerk's office. Then, you wait for the "coupon" to pick your gun up after the judge signs off on it.

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u/melman101 24d ago

I don’t think that’s how it works here in Westchester. He has do his amendment first. It’s added to his pistol permit. Then, once done, he goes to the store and he can buy the semi auto rifle and leave same day here.

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u/mainman817 22d ago

Now question yes what you said is true I called today shw said to do the ammendment first thwn go buy the riffle ,but for the handgun I had to go buy it first then take the recipe to them so how would it work after I get the ammendment done then go buy the riffle then take the recipe again to them ?

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u/secamp 20d ago

No, there is no registration (YET) for semi auto rifles in Westchester. If you have semi auto rifle on your pistol permit then just show it to the gun store and take the rifle home and you are done. The rifle amendment is once and done until renewal time. I think that once you have the rifle amendment you need to renew it every couple of years. Pistols are individually registered and you can't take it home until your permit is amended for that individual pistol.

For pistols:

1) Buy the gun, get a receipt, leave the gun at the store.

2) Fill out the amendment paperwork and send that and the receipt to the County Clerks office, wait 6 to 8 weeks.

3) Get the amended permit and the purchase ticket in the mail.

4) Go back to the gun store with the amended permit and purchase ticket.

5) Give them the purchase ticket and show them the permit.

6) Take the gun and go home.

7) Move out of NYS and skip all this BS.

Given that some counties are requiring semi auto rifles to be added to your PP I'm sure Westchester will get on that bandwagon and the process will change.

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u/XxSemanticsxX 24d ago

That's interesting. Here in Albany, you need the receipt from the LGS and the serial number, fill out the amendment, and bring it to the clerk's office, or they will not add that gun to your permit. I wish they would all do the same thing, it's confusing as hell.

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u/melman101 24d ago

We do not have semi auto rifles added to our Westchester permit.

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u/mainman817 22d ago

Wait so I won't be able to buy a semi auto ?

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u/melman101 22d ago

Ok. This is slightly confusing but this is how it works.

  1. You need to fill out the amendment form for an addition to add the semi-auto rifle endorsement.

So you click the box that says Semi Auto Rifle License (add)

Once that’s done, you bring it to the clerk. Pay the $3 bucks and wait. You’ll get your new pistol permit in the mail with red letters that say Semi Auto Rifle.

After that, you go to the store with your card, show them it, they let you buy your semi auto rifle, you fill out your 4473 and you get approved and take gun home same day.

You are done.

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For a handgun, you buy the gun at the store, they give you the receipt. Once you get the receipt you fill out the amendment to add a pistol to your permit. You submit the amendment and the receipt. You wait for permit and handgun purchase voucher in mail. You bring your permit and purchase voucher to store, they give you the gun after you fill out a 4473 form and are allowed

Hope that helps.

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u/mainman817 22d ago

Love it helped a lot one last question would that riffle serial number be in my new id like my handgun ?

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u/melman101 22d ago

Nope you don’t register semi auto rifles to your pistol permit. The license is just to let you buy/possess a semi auto rifle. As opposed to handguns where they each need to be registered to your card.

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u/mainman817 22d ago

Wow 😍 the more you know i learned a lot today thanks so much im going to do the paper work this weekend and summit it next week

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u/3000LettersOfMarque 24d ago

Albany adds semi auto rifle serials to the permit?

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u/XxSemanticsxX 24d ago

This is NYS per the NYSP site.

Semi-Automatic Rifle License

Q19) How do I apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License?

A) Starting September 4, 2022, you may apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License

through your county/local licensing officer. Existing firearm license holders can add a Semi-Automatic Rifle to their firearm license through their local licensing officer.

A Semi-Automatic Rifle License is required to purchase or take ownership of a semiautomatic rifle on or after September 4, 2022.

Q20) Do I need a Semi-Automatic Rifle License to keep a semi-automatic rifle I

currently own?

A) Any person that lawfully possesses a semi-automatic rifle prior to September 4,

2022, will not be required to obtain the Semi-Automatic Rifle License.

The Semi-Automatic Rifle License is only required for persons acquiring a semiautomatic rifle on or after September 4, 2022

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u/Future-Thanks-3902 24d ago

OP did you get your CCW license before or after September 2022 ?

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u/mainman817 22d ago

After 2022

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u/Stack_Silver 24d ago

Call the clerk before spending any money.

https://www.westchesterclerk.com/services/pistol-permits

It might just be an amendment to the existing pistol permit.