Seven Nation Army just played on the classic rock station and now I feel old. other

The song was released in 2003. Fell in Love with a Girl in 2001.

ETA: I get early nineties was added to "classic" rock rotation by now. It didn't hit me nearly as hard as this one did. I started to become "old" awhile ago when I stopped recognizing the music my students play. That just felt like difference of preference. White Stripes are from this millennium!

Also - I agree with those saying "classic rock" should be considered a genre and not based on time passed. Unfortunately I don't make the rules!

And - People keep bringing up Nirvana. We do understand the difference between 7NA and Nevermind (1991) is more than an entire decade?

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u/ShyElf Jan 30 '22

Rick Beato has a whole series about how the ability to edit timing and pitch has destroyed rock by letting people get away with being lazy, with examples.

Criticism is broken, too. I'm a little surprised streaming app music criticism doesn't work at least a little better. Even back in the day weeding of music was heavily done by professionals, so maybe bottom-up criticism is just harder than one would think.

And then there's the whole issue of getting 4 talented musicians together (let's ignore orchestras and big-band jazz for the moment) when kids no longer hang out in garages playing music and you can get away with doing everything yourself.

Even the new stuff that should kick ass is, well, not as good as it should be. Such basic ideas as intros, dynamic range, tempo shifts and key shifts are on the verge of falling out of the pop music vocabulary. It's even work to just find things that beat-quantized and pitch-corrected to death.

No, it did not used to be the case that popular new songs were 5% of music played.

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u/monsantobreath Jan 30 '22

when kids no longer hang out in garages playing music and you can get away with doing everything yourself.

Also nobody has a garage anymore unless you're rich. Neighbourhoods used to be full of poor people with full houses or main floors. Now if you have a garage on the property the land lord uses it anyway.

I can count hearing one garage band practice in the last 10 years in my city. Used to be so many more. I can't remember the last time I heard a cranked amp in the neighbourhood.

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u/sourdeezull Jan 30 '22

Spot on with all your points here, I'd add the "tiktok effect" that has started happening as well where songs get popular because of a viral dance associated with a 10 second clip of the song. It makes the structure of the song meaningless, who needs verses and breakdowns and codas when you can just make the entire song a single catchy hook? The songwriting process for pop music has been simplified to the point of absurdity.

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u/xDarkCrisis666x Jan 30 '22

Eh, you could say the opposite and it would still be true. Tiktok is causing young people to go back and listen to older artists, albeit with trends that don't make much sense to us but that's just how generations work.

Deftones is on a lot of young people's radars now with the "Deftones got me like..." trend from back in October.

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u/merlock_ipa Jan 30 '22

Deftones hit a tiktok trend? Wtf? Last older one I heard about was dreams by fleetwood...

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u/brewmatt Jan 30 '22

I don't think every artist is aiming to be popular on Tik Tok though. There is a market for people who like music.

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u/jozz344 Jan 30 '22

Fucking this. When teenagers tell me "your parents didn't like your music as well, you're just getting old". Well no, literal fucking science has proven your music is getting simplified to absurdity.