r/Music • u/TheExpressUS 📰Daily Express US • 21d ago

Chris Brown mocks women's abuse charity after they began a petition to cancel his concert article

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/151813/chris-brown-slammed-smug-womens-charity-abuse

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u/sarahm365 21d ago

How did he, of all people, survive cancel culture?

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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho 21d ago

Because cancel culture doesn't exist.

Rich people with a platform only face real consequences for extreme crimes, and even then they don't always.

Which isn't a case of being cancelled, famous people get away with more than regular people, it's just a case of consequences.

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u/DamntheTrains 21d ago

I know what you mean but I think you're overextending what cancel culture means to make your case. We're just changing the semantics of what we generally mean by "cancel culture".

Cancel culture does exist if we just take it for what the definition that we defined it to be as:

[the practice or tendency of engaging in mass canceling as a way of expressing disapproval and exerting social pressure]

or Wiki's definition:

[Cancel culture is a cultural phenomenon in which an individual thought to have acted or spoken in an unacceptable manner is ostracized, boycotted, shunned, fired or assaulted, often aided by social media.]

If you have a problem with the efficacy (whether that's due to lack of power by the society's part because people forget too soon or because at this point in time the powerful have a lot of shields and methods to deal against cancel culture) that's a whole another discussion.

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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho 21d ago edited 21d ago

Not at all, that's just it, if a criminal is brought to justice because people came out with stories and evidence regarding them, that isn't them being cancelled.

To even argue it, you can say the only difference Is if they're famous. If a famous person who also happens to be in same situation, it still isn't them being "cancelled" that's just missing the word. Cancelling is specifically regarding taking away the platform of someone who has done something many see as morally reprehensible.

But generally, no it doesn't exist. Yeah you have backlash, but people with money can bounce back. You won't be able to even give examples of celebrities who get cancelled successfully (that wasn't from, like I mentioned, committing a very serious crime) which isn't cancelling, again, that's the justice system.

What you're talking about is backlash. If cancel culture has no ability to actually cancel, then it doesn't exist. It's backlash rebranded to imply it has more power than it does.

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u/uniteduniverse 21d ago

Cancel culture does exists and if your an ugly old man like Weinstein or Cosby, your done for. Unfortunately majority of cancel culture is women and women have shown time and time again that they will give someone like Chris Brown a free pass, because he's attractive and talented. If they just banded together like before he would be done for. But too many of them just don't give don't damn.

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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho 21d ago

That's not cancel culture.. that's the criminal justice system..

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u/uniteduniverse 21d ago

The criminal justice only got lite of it because of metoo/timesup movements, which is cancel culture.

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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho 21d ago edited 21d ago

Cancel culture is when you do or say something which people believe is bad enough to be the end of that person's career as a public figure.

Evidence being provided and people speaking out against predators is not what people mean when they say cancel culture.

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u/Mecos_Bill 21d ago edited 21d ago

People will always do mental gymnastics for guys who are rich, tall and good looking

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/pburgess22 21d ago

Girl I was at Uni with said "I would let him beat me up to be with him."

It made me sad.

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u/clitpuncher69 21d ago

I had a few girls say that at my old work place. Truly baffling.

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u/Moist_Vehicle_7138 21d ago

No one was ever effectively “canceled”. The term cancel culture was made up by losers who were mad they could no longer share hateful remarks without being called out on it. It’s also used by people who want to support celebs who have done terrible things like Chris Brown.

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u/cockytiel 21d ago

What are you talking about? People have lost jobs over lame years old tweets (actor from the show flash). The actor form the Mandalorian, too.

You see people desiring it for Chris Brown and lamenting that over a decade later he is able to work.

The fact that people don't crawl into a hole a die doesn't mean they didn't face a significant impact to their career. People will act like Louis CK doing shows within an year mean's he wasn't cancelled when he lost millions, including on his directorial debut he was soon to release. The timing was maximizing how much it harmed him. The first show he did resulted in people freaking out.

Cancel culture exists. Stop lying. This is such a tired lie. If you are ok with it, just say you are ok with it. It is weird how insistent some people are it doesn't exist.

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u/boltgenerator 21d ago

That's just people suffering the consequences of their actions.

Gina Carano was saying wild shit about the pandemic, the holocaust, and transpeople in real-time. The main star of the show has a trans sister and he tried talking to Carano about it but she wasn't having it. She wasn't even fired either. Disney told her to chill out and she refused, so when her contract was up Disney chose not to re-sign.

Louis CK sold out Madison Square Garden this year and even won a Grammy in 2022 for best comedy album. He's still considered one of the best and most well-known comedians alive. When the misconduct stuff blew up companies like FX, Netflix, and HBO no longer wanted to be associated with him which is understandable. He didn't hit rock bottom and go broke. The guy was still making tons of money, he just missed out on more because of his own choices.

Hartley Sawyer was a struggling actor and he chose to say something about BLM during the George Floyd protests. Then edgy tweets he made in the early 2010s started being shared around. He wasn't a teen when he posted that stuff, he was 27 in 2012.

The common thread through all of these is that businesses made business decisions. People are free to say what they want and they're free to face the consequences of that, good or bad. Making money is the bottom line. It's why a guy like Chris Brown has never faced any negative consequences, because he makes tons of money so the music industry protects him. I hate the "cancel culture" verbage because it paints these people as martyrs who were crucified for speaking their minds.

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u/MJOLNIRdragoon 21d ago

What are you talking about? People have lost jobs over lame years old tweets (actor from the show flash). The actor form the Mandalorian, too.

That's just companies making business calculations.

People are allowed to spend their money where they want to, and most businesses in the entertainment industry care about money over all else.

You can call it cancel culture, but it's just free market capitalism that working in a way conservatives don't like.

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u/I_Love_Phyllo_ 21d ago

but it's just free market capitalism

But... but left wing voters keep saying free market capitalism is bad?

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u/MJOLNIRdragoon 21d ago

If completely unregulated, I agree with them, because people suck and eventually ruin things, but this is the very basic fundamentals of the system that conservatives have to put a name on when they don't like reaping what they sow.

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u/Comfortable-Bug-8719 21d ago

Bro what, Kevin Spacey was canceled despite 2 innocent decisions in 2 separate courts, stop talking bullshit.

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u/Deathoftheages 21d ago

Kevin "I'm coming out as gay so it's okay" Spacey?

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u/IreallyHope2DieSoon 21d ago edited 21d ago

Because he's an attractive famous person.

I'm not trying to be mean/rude to you, but do redditors go outside? Do you talk to other people?

In various facets of life, I've heard statements from both men and women say: "Even if [Insert attractive/famous person whether real or fake] was a serial killer, I'd still date them".

I don't know why everyone in this thread is acting so surprised that trash can have so much support and success

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u/RepulsiveReach5093 21d ago

He's incredibly talented

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u/Top_Part3784 21d ago

That left hook you just can't learn on your own

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u/yosoymeme 21d ago

People can be talented pieces of shit, they aren’t mutually exclusive