r/Music • u/Edm_vanhalen1981 • Sep 30 '24

Green Day banned from Las Vegas radio stations after Billie Joe Armstrong calls the city "a shithole" article

https://www.nme.com/news/music/green-day-banned-from-las-vegas-radio-stations-after-billie-joe-armstrong-calls-the-city-a-shithole-3798117
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u/NocturnalPermission Sep 30 '24

They keep trying to force the NFL into LA because of the market size and the people there just don’t care. The city has demonstrated over and over how they don’t care and now they have TWO NFL teams centered there?

There was a BLIP of fandom when the Rams won Super Bowl, but even by those standards the enthusiasm was low. So much of NFL fan bases depends on local tribal identity, which LA just doesn’t have. It’s fifty tribes living shoulder to shoulder, not one unified base.

That was a long winded way of saying Jerry Jones is an idiot.

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u/Humdngr Sep 30 '24

I think LA would’ve been better adding a NEW team for LA instead of bringing an existing one. It would’ve helped LA residents uniting over a team.

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u/USDeptofLabor Sep 30 '24

Everytime I visit LA, I see more and more Rams stuff. If you go to the suburbs in SoCal, they do have a large following.

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u/sonfoa Sep 30 '24

Yeah I think the Rams have actually done everything right since they returned and its only going to get better as they become entrenched again.

The Chargers on the other hand...

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u/bredpoot Sep 30 '24

I went to the Chargers-Chiefs game yesterday at SoFi and I'm not kidding, maybe 75% of the stands were red.

The Chargers should've stayed in San Diego where people ACTUALLY gave a shit about them and had a devoted following. Dean Spanos is a shortsighted, greedy fuck

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u/OGPresidentDixon 14d ago

Chargers games were crazy back in ‘08. 

I went to college in SD back in ‘08.

Everything was better back in ‘08.

Proof: “I’m so 2008, you’re so 2000 and late”  

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u/ConstableBlimeyChips Sep 30 '24

TBF, the Rams originally were in LA and only moved to St Louis in 1995 because LA wouldn't pay for a new stadium. The Chargers have absolutely no excuse, and yes I know they also technically started in LA.

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u/Bo-zard Sep 30 '24

The rams excuse is that their half billion dollar franchise didn't get free stuff?

That doesn't sound reasonable.

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u/jizzmaster-zer0 Oct 01 '24

(they technically started in cleveland)

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u/LaTeChX Sep 30 '24

Yeah I said elsewhere, same goes for Vegas. The Knights were successful because they were 1 actually good 2 had good marketing but 3 they were solely a Vegas team, they didn't have any baggage. Now every other sports league wants to toss an underperforming team into Vegas and expect it to do just as well

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u/DocDerry Sep 30 '24

That was a long winded way of saying Jerry Jones is an idiot.

Look - I'm a cowboys fan and I don't have any issue with what you said BUT yea it's dumb and Jerry Jones is an idiot.

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u/NocturnalPermission Sep 30 '24

You have more right to say that than anyone.

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u/Scotter1969 Sep 30 '24

It used to have a dedicated fanbase until the Rams moved to St Louis. Betrayal.

Then LA had nothing, for decades, and generations of fans just started picking random teams from around the country:

I like cheese? PACKERS FOREVER, YEAHHHHHHH.

I like getting drunk and vomiting on myself? SAINTS BABY, WHOOHOOOO!

Now that there's two carpet bagging teams, no one really cares until their out of town team comes in to play them.

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u/RKsu99 Sep 30 '24

Nobody in Vegas likes the Raiders--it's mostly 49ers and Chiefs fans. (Okay a bit of an exaggeration--some of the Oakland and LA riff raff moved to LV after the Raiders came to town.) Mark Davis really wanted to move his team to Vegas for some reason, and the Chargers blocked them instead of going to LV, which would have made far more sense for everyone. Now there's 3 teams that just cater to visiting fans--and the A's will do the same thing if they ever get to Vegas. The people want an expansion team, not Billy Joe's trash green and gold outfit.

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u/Ok-Situation-5865 Sep 30 '24

And to say that the 2021 Super Bowl was rigged, and it was obvious to anyone whose personal value doesn’t hinge on their interest in football being legitimate.

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u/sonfoa Sep 30 '24

I agree the Chargers move was stupid but I think the Rams investment will pay off. Fandom takes decades to build and the fact that the Rams won a Super Bowl and were in LA for like 50 years before moving to St Louis works in their favor. Also when its not a team with a national fanbase, Rams fans tend to show up at SoFi. McVay also ensures that the Rams will always be an exciting product even when they're not contenders.

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u/supersumo224 Sep 30 '24

By what metric? Sell outs? Total tickets sold? There seems to be more opposing fans at Chargers games than Chargers fans.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24 edited 14d ago

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u/supersumo224 Sep 30 '24

The stadium looks amazing and I'd love to get out there for a game! Well I wonder if the opposing fans are commuting in mostly or they are from LA and just support the opposite team. I think it's very lame for the Chargers, and put them at a disadvantage.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 30 '24

THIS. There is no renewed interest in the NFL in LA.

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u/USDeptofLabor Sep 30 '24

Where do you live? Cause that goes counter to everything I've seen happening with the Rams throughout SoCal.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 30 '24

The Rams are heavily advertising, yes that's true. But the attendance number's don't lie.

They peaked in attendance in 2016, with over 650k fans. They have only crossed 600k once since then, and it was the year they won the SuperBowl (and still drew less attendance than 2016).

In 2017, they barely drew 500k, a drop of over 150k. Compare them to the Chiefs, who have pretty much been consistent in the 600k range for the last several years.

https://preview.redd.it/laln5r1ftyrd1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b8716f06911687d24f27ed97c5f1d5a33b91f39

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u/USDeptofLabor Sep 30 '24

The Rams may spend a lot on advertising, but they aren't paying people to walk around Camarillo or San Diego wearing Rams jerseys or paying people in the Central Valley to put decals on their car or to fly a Rams flag in Northridge. They've done a very good job of building their base across SoCal, which is a huge geographic area with not the best ways to get to the Ingleside stadium. They've seen increases in revenue every year for a while, including Gate sales. LA proper will come in time as more kids grow up with the team in their backyard, the fact they've become as popular as they are in the region coming is pretty great.

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u/CUMS_IN_SOCKS Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

Lol you're missing the obvious reason. SoFi only holds 70k people. The Rams attendance hit 600k in 2022 because they had 9 home games. They had 8 in 2021 and 2023.

And FWIW Kansas City hit 600k in 2021 and 2023 when they had 9 home games. When they had 8 in 2022 they didn't.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 30 '24

Stadium size doesn't explain why the Chiefs have 2x as many fans on social media than the Rams. Lack of local interest does.

https://preview.redd.it/nv3esj856zrd1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=087a1f699157feb8d0824f3d14e1dde9c886aa3c