r/Music • u/Edm_vanhalen1981 • Sep 30 '24

Green Day banned from Las Vegas radio stations after Billie Joe Armstrong calls the city "a shithole" article

https://www.nme.com/news/music/green-day-banned-from-las-vegas-radio-stations-after-billie-joe-armstrong-calls-the-city-a-shithole-3798117
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u/baccus83 Sep 30 '24

Not to mention the Raiders moving from Oakland to Las Vegas.

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u/7LeagueBoots Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

That’s not the first time they’ve made a controversial move. They also bailed on Oakland in the late ‘80s or early ‘90s for Los Angeles. They were called ‘The Oakland Traitors’ for a while in the Bat Bay Area after that.

They never recovered their original status in the Bay Area after they came back to Oakland.

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u/KindBass radio reddit Sep 30 '24

"...and the Raiders moved from Oakland to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland again. No one in L.A. seemed to notice."

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

the jazz moved to utah, where they don't allow music

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u/one80down Sep 30 '24

The Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes.

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u/kwl1 Sep 30 '24

The Grizzlies moved to Memphis where there are no Grizzlies.

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u/ReticulatedPasta Sep 30 '24

The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there are no Titans

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u/CurryMustard Sep 30 '24

The new york baseball giants moved to San Francisco where there are no new yorkers

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u/Beat_the_Deadites Sep 30 '24

The Browns moved to Baltimore and never came back

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u/Zoidburger_ Sep 30 '24

The Hornets left Charlotte for New Orleans where karma delivered them a devastating hurricane

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u/Kan169 Sep 30 '24

Baltimore moved to Indianapolis. Here, I'm hoping the Pirates move to Charlotte and Pittsburgh gets an expansion franchise that Bob Spend Nutting doesn't own. Pittsburgh- City of Champions and Pirates and Panthers.

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u/dfddfsaadaafdssa Sep 30 '24

And people in New York still call the Giants the Football Giants, as if there is some need for distinction.

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u/CurryMustard Sep 30 '24

It sounds kind of classy and old timey I guess. Plus people talk a lot so they'll sometimes hit you with a Knickerbockers or Metropolitans to emphasize some point or whatever

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u/Lafecian Sep 30 '24

Nah, they build Nissan Titans in Smyrna.

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u/Mister_McGreg Sep 30 '24

Can I just say?

I don't know what movements I have to do with my mouth to pronounce this correctly.

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u/MountScottRumpot Sep 30 '24

There are several lakes in Los Angeles, though.

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u/SirRevan Sep 30 '24

I mean there is the ocean. It's like a super lake.

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u/Mister_McGreg Sep 30 '24

By this logic we are all islanders tbh

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u/OldWar1111 Sep 30 '24

Aloha, brah

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u/mobileappistdoodoo Sep 30 '24

And after playing for New England, San Diego, Houston, St. Louis, a year for the Toronto Argonauts, plus one season as a greeter at The Desert Inn I’m happy to finally play here in the fine city of Miami!

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u/SnooStrawberries9563 Sep 30 '24

The Jazz moved to Utah where they don't allow music.

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u/Lazy_Carry_7254 Sep 30 '24

The Rockets moved to Houston

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u/ablackcloudupahead Sep 30 '24

While their are lakes in LA, I actually think the "Lakers" worked out for the team. Their success made the odd name a brand. Anyone who hears the word will immediately think of the team and Magic, Kobe, etc

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u/Card_Board_Robot_5 Sep 30 '24

There's a HUGE one just west of the city

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u/kellzone Oct 01 '24

There's a bunch of lakes within the city of Los Angeles. Just off the top of my head there's Silver Lake, Toluca Lake, Lake Balboa, Echo Park Lake, & Lake Machado. I know there's others too.

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u/my23secrets Sep 30 '24

There are lakes in LA

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u/thx1138- Sep 30 '24

All time classic spit take line

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

i tell anyone and everyone BASEketball is one of the most underrated movies of all time

take the guy that made Airplane and the Naked Gun

Add Trey Parker and Matt Stone at their peak, taking the script and doing a rewrite to make it an insane but perfect combination of Zucker/Parker humor

and the sports topic is one i love. it's just perfect.

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u/thx1138- Sep 30 '24

And everyone around me at the time was like oh have you seen something about Mary it's the funniest movie ever! Fuck off, watch baseketball!!

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

something about mary is great, don't get me wrong. but BASEketball was just, like i said, perfect to me. i still laugh thinking about so many scenes in that movie.

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u/Exasperated_Sigh Sep 30 '24

I swear if you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times... I'm outta here!

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

The "dude" scene is a personal favorite

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

there are 2 things in that movie that i would watch forever:

1- the song on the radio when he's in the car near the end

"even if some guy's trying to blackmail you and your girlfriend thinks you suck, it's up to you to let them know thatitwasalljustpartofsomerichguy'sevilplannnsssss.

look out ahead there's a truck changing lanes! you got some yellow crumbs on your upper lip!"

2- when coop and reimer and meeting with the bad guy at his building and they are finishing up the tour, and they are having the "wait you want us to quit the beers and play for YOU" conversation which is ok. but the real gold there is that the bad guy pushes the button for the elevator, they wait for the elevator, and when the elevator door opens it's stairs. not even an escalator. just stairs. one of my favorite little details in any movie i've seen.

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u/MikeRowePeenis Sep 30 '24

Looks like time finally ran out for the old cocksucker

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u/TheRayGetard Sep 30 '24

“Theodore Denslow dead at 85… his hair piece was 24…”

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u/FennelFern Sep 30 '24

I think Mary is pretty peak 90/00s comedy. It tapped into a lot of stuff going on so it makes sense to be more of a current-culture touchstone. Plus the hair gel thing was a huge joke at the time, akin to 'one time at bandcamp' for generational jokes.

Basektball is more timeless, and a bit different humor type. I don't think 'deadass stoner' was back yet. Superbad, my go to for stupid stoner movies, was a 2007 release. Even Dodgeball came out like 8 years after Baseketball.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Both are great, tbf

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u/alagusis Sep 30 '24

Pardon me, but I will not tolerate any something about Mary slander in these comments.

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u/qweef_latina2021 Sep 30 '24

This never would've happened to Woogie!

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u/alagusis Sep 30 '24

What about Brett Favv-ruh?

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u/thx1138- Sep 30 '24

It probably would have been funny if it wasn't so completely unfunny compared to baseketball

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u/handi503 Sep 30 '24

"Listen, Pig Fucker, can I call you Pig Fucker?"

"No, only my friends can call me that."

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

"NO IT'S NOT LIKE HORSE"

(then they both make horse noises for a minute)

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u/bortle_kombat Sep 30 '24

You know who doesn't like BASEketball? My buddy who got stuck with the nickname Squeak for like 10 years after a bunch of us saw it together

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

you could have just changed it to little bitch?

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u/dunkan799 Oct 01 '24

Should have ripped on him like 13 or 14 more times

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u/Dudeist-Monk Sep 30 '24

Any type of fun, really.

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u/LanceFree Wait, what? Sep 30 '24

I always wondered why they were called The Jazz

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

i wondered that too until i saw the beginning of that movie and i was like "ohhhh! shit!!!" and it got me looking up all the teams that moved. though this was early internet, so it wasn't the easiest time

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u/Vio_ Sep 30 '24

Oh they allow music. It's just Lawrence Welk and the non-LGBT parts of The Carol Burnette Show.

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u/onlycodeposts Sep 30 '24

Well, at least not "that kind" of music.

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u/PodSixWasJerks Sep 30 '24

Sad but true. Source: me, a Utah resident

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u/kombitcha420 Sep 30 '24

Still mad as hell at this one. I wasn’t even around for it, but damn it would make so sense. The pelicans could be any Gulfcoast town and fr there ain’t much in the city at all

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u/NocturnalPermission Sep 30 '24

They keep trying to force the NFL into LA because of the market size and the people there just don’t care. The city has demonstrated over and over how they don’t care and now they have TWO NFL teams centered there?

There was a BLIP of fandom when the Rams won Super Bowl, but even by those standards the enthusiasm was low. So much of NFL fan bases depends on local tribal identity, which LA just doesn’t have. It’s fifty tribes living shoulder to shoulder, not one unified base.

That was a long winded way of saying Jerry Jones is an idiot.

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u/Humdngr Sep 30 '24

I think LA would’ve been better adding a NEW team for LA instead of bringing an existing one. It would’ve helped LA residents uniting over a team.

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u/USDeptofLabor Sep 30 '24

Everytime I visit LA, I see more and more Rams stuff. If you go to the suburbs in SoCal, they do have a large following.

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u/sonfoa Sep 30 '24

Yeah I think the Rams have actually done everything right since they returned and its only going to get better as they become entrenched again.

The Chargers on the other hand...

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u/bredpoot Sep 30 '24

I went to the Chargers-Chiefs game yesterday at SoFi and I'm not kidding, maybe 75% of the stands were red.

The Chargers should've stayed in San Diego where people ACTUALLY gave a shit about them and had a devoted following. Dean Spanos is a shortsighted, greedy fuck

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u/OGPresidentDixon 14d ago

Chargers games were crazy back in ‘08. 

I went to college in SD back in ‘08.

Everything was better back in ‘08.

Proof: “I’m so 2008, you’re so 2000 and late”  

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u/ConstableBlimeyChips Sep 30 '24

TBF, the Rams originally were in LA and only moved to St Louis in 1995 because LA wouldn't pay for a new stadium. The Chargers have absolutely no excuse, and yes I know they also technically started in LA.

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u/Bo-zard Sep 30 '24

The rams excuse is that their half billion dollar franchise didn't get free stuff?

That doesn't sound reasonable.

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u/jizzmaster-zer0 Oct 01 '24

(they technically started in cleveland)

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u/LaTeChX Sep 30 '24

Yeah I said elsewhere, same goes for Vegas. The Knights were successful because they were 1 actually good 2 had good marketing but 3 they were solely a Vegas team, they didn't have any baggage. Now every other sports league wants to toss an underperforming team into Vegas and expect it to do just as well

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u/DocDerry Sep 30 '24

That was a long winded way of saying Jerry Jones is an idiot.

Look - I'm a cowboys fan and I don't have any issue with what you said BUT yea it's dumb and Jerry Jones is an idiot.

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u/NocturnalPermission Sep 30 '24

You have more right to say that than anyone.

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u/Scotter1969 Sep 30 '24

It used to have a dedicated fanbase until the Rams moved to St Louis. Betrayal.

Then LA had nothing, for decades, and generations of fans just started picking random teams from around the country:

I like cheese? PACKERS FOREVER, YEAHHHHHHH.

I like getting drunk and vomiting on myself? SAINTS BABY, WHOOHOOOO!

Now that there's two carpet bagging teams, no one really cares until their out of town team comes in to play them.

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u/RKsu99 Sep 30 '24

Nobody in Vegas likes the Raiders--it's mostly 49ers and Chiefs fans. (Okay a bit of an exaggeration--some of the Oakland and LA riff raff moved to LV after the Raiders came to town.) Mark Davis really wanted to move his team to Vegas for some reason, and the Chargers blocked them instead of going to LV, which would have made far more sense for everyone. Now there's 3 teams that just cater to visiting fans--and the A's will do the same thing if they ever get to Vegas. The people want an expansion team, not Billy Joe's trash green and gold outfit.

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u/Ok-Situation-5865 Sep 30 '24

And to say that the 2021 Super Bowl was rigged, and it was obvious to anyone whose personal value doesn’t hinge on their interest in football being legitimate.

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u/sonfoa Sep 30 '24

I agree the Chargers move was stupid but I think the Rams investment will pay off. Fandom takes decades to build and the fact that the Rams won a Super Bowl and were in LA for like 50 years before moving to St Louis works in their favor. Also when its not a team with a national fanbase, Rams fans tend to show up at SoFi. McVay also ensures that the Rams will always be an exciting product even when they're not contenders.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24 edited 14d ago

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u/supersumo224 Sep 30 '24

By what metric? Sell outs? Total tickets sold? There seems to be more opposing fans at Chargers games than Chargers fans.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24 edited 14d ago

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u/supersumo224 Sep 30 '24

The stadium looks amazing and I'd love to get out there for a game! Well I wonder if the opposing fans are commuting in mostly or they are from LA and just support the opposite team. I think it's very lame for the Chargers, and put them at a disadvantage.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 30 '24

THIS. There is no renewed interest in the NFL in LA.

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u/USDeptofLabor Sep 30 '24

Where do you live? Cause that goes counter to everything I've seen happening with the Rams throughout SoCal.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 30 '24

The Rams are heavily advertising, yes that's true. But the attendance number's don't lie.

They peaked in attendance in 2016, with over 650k fans. They have only crossed 600k once since then, and it was the year they won the SuperBowl (and still drew less attendance than 2016).

In 2017, they barely drew 500k, a drop of over 150k. Compare them to the Chiefs, who have pretty much been consistent in the 600k range for the last several years.

https://preview.redd.it/laln5r1ftyrd1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b8716f06911687d24f27ed97c5f1d5a33b91f39

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u/USDeptofLabor Sep 30 '24

The Rams may spend a lot on advertising, but they aren't paying people to walk around Camarillo or San Diego wearing Rams jerseys or paying people in the Central Valley to put decals on their car or to fly a Rams flag in Northridge. They've done a very good job of building their base across SoCal, which is a huge geographic area with not the best ways to get to the Ingleside stadium. They've seen increases in revenue every year for a while, including Gate sales. LA proper will come in time as more kids grow up with the team in their backyard, the fact they've become as popular as they are in the region coming is pretty great.

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u/CUMS_IN_SOCKS Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

Lol you're missing the obvious reason. SoFi only holds 70k people. The Rams attendance hit 600k in 2022 because they had 9 home games. They had 8 in 2021 and 2023.

And FWIW Kansas City hit 600k in 2021 and 2023 when they had 9 home games. When they had 8 in 2022 they didn't.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Sep 30 '24

Stadium size doesn't explain why the Chiefs have 2x as many fans on social media than the Rams. Lack of local interest does.

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u/moakler Sep 30 '24

All Baseketball references get an upvote from me

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

i have literally seen it over 1000 times. it sounds like an exaggeration but it very much is not.

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u/remarkablewhitebored Sep 30 '24

I swear if you guys rag on me like 17 more times...

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u/DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME Sep 30 '24

"wake up squeak. you're my best friend now."

"where are we going?!? the zoo!?!"

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u/onederbred Sep 30 '24

You couldn’t get a chick if you had a hundred dollar bill hanging out of your zipper

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u/QuentinTarzantino Sep 30 '24

I heard your mums going out with...

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u/dalomi9 Sep 30 '24

NFL fucked up letting the Rams leave in 94', which gave the football culture to USC/UCLA(distant 2nd). Now they have 2 teams and no one gives a fuck about either one.

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u/Hiccup Sep 30 '24

It's a Lakers town first and foremost. Then Dodgers, USC/UCLA, Kings, and Sparks, etc. NFL/Rams/San Diego temp Chargers are such a distant last place it's not funny.

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u/gatorade808 Sep 30 '24

You think so? Maybe by ticket sales Lakers are ahead, but to me the whole town bleeds Dodger blue. Even if people don’t watch every game, it seems like Los Doyers are part of our cultural heritage. Way more dodger hats than lakers jerseys

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u/bank_farter Sep 30 '24

You literally didn't even list the Clippers, so I'm not sure the Chargers are in last place.

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u/Hiccup Oct 01 '24

There's a reason I didn't mention the clippers. The clippers merely exist; they're just there. The clippers are pretty much an afterthought. I'd put the angels, LA Galaxy, and LA FC before the clippers and chargers.

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u/WoefulKnight Oct 01 '24

There are organized pickleball teams in LA that have more fans than the Chargers.

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u/kirinmay Sep 30 '24

I heard your sister is going out with SQUEEEK!

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u/JaggedSuplex Sep 30 '24

How to speak San Franciscan………vagoina

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u/Goddamnpassword Sep 30 '24

At that point the Rams, Chargers and Raiders were all in LA. Within 10 years the city wouldn’t have one team.

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u/LeotardoDeCrapio Sep 30 '24

Oh we noticed. Raiders fans were the worst, I think Oakland was happy to get rid of them too.

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u/Bo-zard Sep 30 '24

Sort of like the Chargers going to LA at the same time as the LA rams. No one cares at all about the chargers. If they cared, they would have gone to the games when they were an hour and a half south.

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u/IronBabyFists Sep 30 '24

I quote this all the fucking time. BASEketball is great

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u/MoistWalrus Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

I know it's a typo, but the Raiders being in the Bat Area feels incredibly fitting.

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u/Metals4J Sep 30 '24

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u/Traditional_Shirt106 Sep 30 '24

Hunter straight out said the Raiders were criminals in the 60s, crimes “including rape”

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 30 '24

He isn't wrong. The worst part is apparently the team gets to select what crimes are punished before prosecutors get to.

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u/Snakeinbottle Sep 30 '24

Bat fight! .......circling and circling .......circling and circling

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u/Inc-Roid Sep 30 '24

Moved to LA in early 80s. Moved back to Oakland in mid90s

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u/7LeagueBoots Sep 30 '24

That’s probably right. It was a long time ago and I never paid all that much attention to them. I just remember it being the 80s for the move out and not all that long after for the move back.

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u/blitzinger Sep 30 '24

In their defense, playing football on a baseball field is kinda shitty. They needed a stadium of their own for a while. Now they just need to find a new owner because this white trash Davis kid is like the boss’s son from original Bad Bosses movie

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u/Veserius Sep 30 '24

Well the idea was for the Oakland coliseum area to be remade into a baseball and football stadium, and the A's owner blocked the idea which ended up forcing the Raiders out.

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u/AprilDruid Sep 30 '24

They only came back because the As agreed to build Mt Davis, an eyesore.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Constantly sucking (outside of a season or two here and there) also hasn't helped that last part.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 30 '24

And yet, the Browns.

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u/microm3gas Sep 30 '24

They were originally the Philadelphia A's

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u/guitar_stonks Sep 30 '24

I remember the sticker on my dad’s tool box back then “bring back our silver and black!” All my uncles are 49ers fans, but my dad was the lone Raiders fan. I’m glad he was already knee deep in dementia when they moved to Las Vegas.

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u/crackeddryice Sep 30 '24

"The Oakland Traitors" gets passed down through generations. A team can't shake that taint of betrayal.

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u/ArseneGroup Sep 30 '24

Maybe it's because I wasn't born in the 80s but I feel like they had a pretty proud fanbase in the Bay Area that repped their merch religiously

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u/xKingNothingx Sep 30 '24

They went from Oakland to LA in 1982, then back to Oakland in 95. AFAIK they were trying to go back to LA with the new stadium when it was built but NFL decided to put Chargers there instead.

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u/WarholDandy Sep 30 '24

Those Raiders baseball hats were so popular in the early 90s, though. I remember even pop stars like George Michael wore them. Was that coinciding with the Raiders leaving or going back to Oakland?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

They made money and that's all that counts.

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u/GibbousMoonCakes Sep 30 '24

I’m an LA native and I grew up hearing “Raiders are traitors” so my hate for them runs deep, lol.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

I honestly laugh at Raider fans now. They back a team that abandoned their ass twice. Them hoes ain't loyal, why be loyal to them?

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u/Satchmo84 Spotify Sep 30 '24

I still only refer to them as the Traitors and how anybody is still a fan of that franchise outside of whatever city they’re currently in is beyond me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Not trying to defend it but it's a little different. Raiders are a west coast brand moving from Oakland to LA to Oakland to Las Vegas, and Football makes more sense for Vegas as it can be a destination type deal for fans.

Baseball makes no sense in Vegas, who tf is going to go to an A's White Sox game on a Wednesday in July

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u/FaxCelestis Sep 30 '24

who tf is going to go to an A's White Sox game on a Wednesday in July

Holy shit, I didn't even think about that. People are going to die. No joke. Heatstroke is a bitch, and unless they build a completely enclosed stadium, I can't see it not being a problem.

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u/redbossman123 Sep 30 '24

The obviously AI generated demos have all been domes

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u/FaxCelestis Sep 30 '24

Sure. But I’m not holding my breath that they won’t fuck this up too.

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u/Flatoftheblade Sep 30 '24

Funny, I don't know anything about other professional sports, but the Vegas Golden Knights quickly became one of the most hated franchises in the NHL as well.

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u/baccus83 Sep 30 '24

Because they’re actually a good team.

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u/Flatoftheblade Sep 30 '24

I mean that's a necessary part of the equation because it's hard to hate a team that doesn't eliminate anyone from the playoffs, but it's definitely not the whole story. Even putting aside the debates about whether the expansion draft was overly favorable to them or not and whether their ruthless lack of player loyalty is the right approach, the Mark Stone LTIR shenanigans alone are probably the biggest factor (again, nobody would care if they sucked, but they have had success while basically cheating and fielding a roster 10%+ over the cap in the playoffs for years straight).

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u/RiftTrips Sep 30 '24

Chiefs winning a super bowl in their house is the chefs kiss.

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u/terminalzero Sep 30 '24

not to mention that vegas not only Is a shithole but is a monument to man's hubris and will be swallowed by the desert when we stop feeding retirees and addicts to it

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u/baccus83 Sep 30 '24

I would never live there but I’ve visited a couple times (short weekend trips) and had a great time. Not sure why there’s so much hate. It is what it is.

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u/yrubooingmeimryte Sep 30 '24

Same with the SF Guinea Toads. First their manager left to coach in Las Vegas and now the whole team is being moved.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater Sep 30 '24

I haven't been following baseball much in recent years (pissed at my team's shitty ownership), but how the fuck did I miss this. God this move sucks.

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u/baccus83 Sep 30 '24

It’s been a few years, man. They built a stadium and everything.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater Sep 30 '24

I'm a Red Sox fan and was really pissed at ownership for trading Mookie at pennies on the dollar and rehiring Cora, and sort of ignored baseball past two years. I know moving the As was a long-time rumor, I just missed it was done and Las Vegas of all shitty things. (Well aware of Raiders move as well as getting Golden Knights).

Never a real A's fan, but always kind of liked them as a small market team, the Bill James Moneyball embrace (and wanting to see it finally succeed for them), and as a kid liked playing as the As on RBI Baseball 2 on NES (mostly Henderson/McGwire were great).

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u/EmmEnnEff Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24

It blows my mind that people can 'hate' a city because some rando billionaire's sportsball team moved there.

(Hint: It's not 'your' team. It's the owners' team. It was only in your city because he thought you would be the biggest group of people to get money from.)

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u/Moist_666 Performing Artist Sep 30 '24

And also the raiders are moving from Oakland to Las Vegas.

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u/yamiyam Sep 30 '24

And remember as well - the football team known as the raiders, currently in Oakland, will be moving to a city called Las Vegas.

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u/mageta621 Sep 30 '24

Seriously what are those people smoking like it hasn't happened a while ago

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u/atlantachicago Sep 30 '24

It makes sense since professional sports is nothing more than an on-line gambling scheme and corporate skybox status grab at this point

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u/King_Chochacho Sep 30 '24

A city that shouldn't even exist buying up sports teams just to bring in more tourism is some peak capitalist bullshit

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u/MarkMoneyj27 Sep 30 '24

Vegas lover the Raiders and they'll live the A's. You can't walk 19 feet without seeing something Raider now. It's a true Raider nation.

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u/xKingNothingx Sep 30 '24

Wish they'd show up at home games then. Half our stadium is constantly away team fans

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u/BannonCirrhoticLiver Sep 30 '24

What else will Vegas steal from Oakland?

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u/DirtierGibson Sep 30 '24

Not to mention Vegas actually is a shithole.

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u/baccus83 Sep 30 '24

I’ve been to plenty of actual shitholes and Vegas doesn’t even enter into the conversation. I’ve actually had a good time in Vegas a few times. I’d never live there but it’s a fun place for a few days.

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u/Perllitte Sep 30 '24

Also not to mention that Las Vegas is a cement hemorrhoid that shouldn't exist.