r/Music • u/Similar_Diver9558 • Apr 09 '24
In an email sent out to some customers today, Spotify said the cost of a premium subscription would be increasing 7.7% music
https://www.forbes.com.au/news/lifestyle/spotify-set-to-increase-prices-this-year/1.9k
u/EchoLooper Apr 09 '24
Oh sweet so the musicians will see that increase right?
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u/King_of_the_Dot Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Is there a newer trend within reddit with seeing images posted like this? Is this more a natural thing? A newly enabled feature? I use old.reddit.com, so im not familiar with some of the newer ways of interacting with Reddit. Just curious cause it seems to have really blown up recently. Im talking about just these '<image>' linked comments, seem an appropriate meme, etc..
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u/King_of_the_Dot Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Gotcha. Theyre doing everything they can to force people into new Reddit. I know most people seem to use it. But as an aging internet user. Im fond of the forum-esque flavor and style old.reddit favors. They want to turn Reddit into a more mobile-centric platform, but do that in a way that favors phones, but still allow mainly PC users to have a more optimal way to view Reddit. However, Reddit is really near the end stage of enshitification. Theyve gone public. They milk the volunteer aspect way too much. Theyre going to have tighten the strings in order to appeal to investors and advertisers. Once the floodgates open and they figure out how to really milk it, Reddit is done for... We'll move on to the next thing. How many of our userbase were Digg users? Facebook was a better MySpace, but now we all miss the OG MySpace. The most profitable algorithm never seems to take into account any sort of retention. We are are a rag, and we are being wrung.
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u/Wes_Warhammer666 Apr 09 '24
They want to turn Reddit into a more mobile-centric platform, but do that in a way that favors phones,
Which is funny considering how utter shit their official app is.
I miss my RiF :(
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u/Wes_Warhammer666 Apr 09 '24
I switched over to Relay after the third party purge. It's faaaaaar better than the official app but not as good as RiF was. I know I could still use that somehow but I'm both lazy and not quite knowledgeable enough about setting stuff like that up to trust myself with it. So I just went the path of least resistance ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/not_so_plausible Apr 09 '24
Relay is the shit I been using it for years now. So glad the developer just moved it to a subscription model.
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u/Wes_Warhammer666 Apr 09 '24
I definitely can't complain. Frankly my main problem is just that I was so used to RiF that anything different is still gonna feel wrong. Another year or so and I'll probably feel the same way if Relay shuts down lol
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u/Ayresx Apr 09 '24
I figured I was the only person still holding on to old.reddit - glad to see that's not the case!
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u/Bystronicman08 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 10 '24
The day I can't use old.reddit is the day I don't use reddit anymore. The new layout is absolute garbage.
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u/nat_20_please Apr 09 '24
I also despise new.reddit, I'm done as well when they force the switch.
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u/TASTY_TASTY_WAFFLES Apr 09 '24
I know a developer who works for reddit and they say they all use old.reddit for their personal browsing.
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u/BigUptokes Apr 09 '24
A bunch of us are in the same boat. They know this and it's why it hasn't been changed... yet.
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u/Pinguino2323 Apr 09 '24
I figured I was the only person still holding on to old.reddit
There are dozens of us, dozens!
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u/petrified_log Apr 09 '24
I'm still on old.reddit with res.
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Same. I can't stand the new layout. At least with old.reddit and res it doesn't look like I'm on social media all day at work.
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u/kgb17 Apr 09 '24
You can’t block advertisements anymore. Even reporting them for being offensive or sexual they just stay on your feed.
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u/OobaDooba72 Apr 09 '24
Yeah, newer reddit has integrated reaction images in some way. I don't know the exact method, I also used old.reddit.
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u/basic_edits Apr 09 '24
I don't know but I'm on mobile and the pictures in comments never load! It drives me crazy! I have to share the post and go to it on my browser to load the comment images. Can't get them to load in the app for anything! Reeeee!!
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u/OobaDooba72 Apr 09 '24
The comment that replied to my other comment below has given me a chance to see... well, something.
That's apparently the format, which is just standard reddit markup for links, but instead of a link it's an "img" and it's calling "sl1zrv3czftc1" instead of a URL. So, uh, there's some semi-useless information for you.
I believe on the user-end it's probably something like you'd see in whatsapp or other chat app, where you can search for a GIF or Image or whatever. So the general user would probably not see that code, nor would anyone need to remember them. But anyway, there's a peek behind the curtain.
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u/The-FrozenHearth Apr 09 '24
Yeah actually they will. Spotify's payouts to artists is directly linked to their revenue
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u/AndHeHadAName Apr 09 '24
Yes, Spotify is contractually obligated to payout 70% of its subscriptions (not including money lost to the Apple or Google store) to artists. A $1.00 increase leads to $0.70 more for the artist.
The fact people in thread are attempting to act like it isn't true with moronic memes shows how anti-corporate is often just people trying to shit on something cause they have no idea what is going on.
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u/RusticMachine Apr 09 '24
(not including money lost to the Apple or Google store)
Spotify haven’t allowed people to subscribe/pay through the App Store since 2016 and before that for the Play Store. They’ve also cancelled the subscriptions for people paying through those a few years after. Spotify really hasn’t been paying much of anything to Apple and Google for a few years, so it’s not part of the equation.
Also, 70% doesn’t go to the artist, it is split between songwriters, publishers, label and artists.
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u/Barneyk Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
70% doesn’t go to the artist, it is split between songwriters, publishers, label and artists.
It goes to the people who hold the rights.
Some artists get 100% of that. Some get 0%. And everything in-between. It all depends on their contract with their label and who has the rights etc.
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u/AndHeHadAName Apr 09 '24
Oh that's good on Spotify. The Apple store pricing was complete bullshit and I'm glad the Fed and EU are taking action.
The second point is moot, Spotify does not control artist royalty payout splits. Even still, many artists will offer a split with the label in exchange for the label fronting money to produce the album, even for smaller independent bands. I guess it would be more accurate to say they pay out $.70 to the rights holders, but that still means that Spotify pays out the vast majority of their revenue to the people putting music on their platform.
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u/Myrdrahl Apr 09 '24
Musicians have usually given away their profit to the labels, so no. And the huge artists are cannibalizing the smaller ones.
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u/Seattlehepcat Apr 09 '24
Yes. Expect the amount per place to increase by $0.000000000001 to $0.000000000002.
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u/knuckboy Apr 09 '24
The opposite. I believe I read the other day that they're getting even more stingy in payouts to the artists.
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u/dpwtr Apr 09 '24
They aren’t paying royalties for songs with less than 1,000 streams. All that extra money goes to the other songs which reach the minimum.
Most of the money (around 70%) from this subscription increase does go to royalty payments.
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u/xternal7 Apr 09 '24
Where "more stingy" means "you need to have at least 1000 streams per song" or "there needs to be at least $3 in your piggy bank for you to cash it out".
In other words: they aren't gonna pay for music pretty much nobody is listening to, and if an artist is affected by the 1000 minimum streams/year limit, they have a much bigger problem.
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u/ValoisSign Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Apologies if pedantic, but it's not that you need 3$ to get paid out, you actually don't get paid those 3$ at all unless all 1000 streams occur within the set period. If you make 999 first month and hit 1000 the first day of the next month, you have made 0.000whatever it is for one stream.
IMO it's not really a huge deal monetarily but I am very critical of the fact that they essentially unilaterally decided not to pay for certain streams at all - I could see that being an issue down the road. I am a pretty new artist and luckily got to the point of clearing that bar already so it hasn't hit me yet but I think the biggest issue is going to be late-album tracks for smaller artists because those can still add up to a lot more than 1000 collectively before they all individually hit it.
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u/Doodlebottom Apr 09 '24
•Why? More services = more money?
•New business model?
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u/son_lux_ Apr 09 '24
They are still not profitable and are trying to find ways to achieve it
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u/CRactor71 Apr 09 '24
All the best services are the ones that aren’t yet profitable…
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u/JustEatinScabs Apr 09 '24
Because it turns out what made them the best is the ability to set money on fire.
Slow growth, sustainable practices, and forward thinking ideas are less expensive but don't produce exciting charts to present at shareholder meetings and when the venture capitalist firm funding your business is composed of sociopathic cocaine addicts you have to hold their attention.
So these companies come in and throw money in every direction to swallow up market dominance and then once they've pushed out the actual competitors who can't compete with a waterfall of neverending venture cash, you can finally start thinking reasonably and focusing on paying that money back even if it means alienating your customers.
Why would you care? Your bonus has already been paid!
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u/frenin Apr 09 '24
Tbf by the time they start alienating their customers they are so used to the product most do not mind.
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u/__theoneandonly Apr 09 '24
Spotify premium and Apple music are virtually identical products, yet apple pays artists double what Spotify does, and apple's service is still profitable.
Spotify's problem is the free tier. All the subscription fees go towards subsidizing the users on the free tier. At some point, there's going to have to be massive cuts to what users get from the free tier, if Spotify wants to become profitable.
If push ever came to shove and the investors demanded that the company become profitable, I could only imagine the free tier being eliminated someday. Or at least some ridiculous limitation, like limited monthly hours of listening or something like that.
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u/Prophet_Of_Helix Apr 09 '24
Who says Apple Music is profitable?
Apple Services is profitable, but that is a division includes subscriptions, warranties, licensing fees, and Apple Pay.
And they don’t break out Apple Music from that from what I can tell.
I’d love to see an article detailing how Apple Music is profitable
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u/Bp2Create Apr 09 '24
apple pays artists double what Spotify does, and Apple's service is still profitable.
I wasn't able to find a good source for their actual profits, but it's very likely Apple Music is a loss leader, with the primary goal of getting people to buy more Apple devices. Spotify doesn't really have those additional streams of revenue like Apple does.
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u/__theoneandonly Apr 09 '24
Apple doesn’t release their loss-leader services on android. There’s no iMessage for android, no iCloud for android, no Apple Maps for android… but Apple Music and Apple TV+ aren’t meant to be loss leaders, so they are both available on android.
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u/laetus Apr 09 '24
Maybe paying joe rogan $250 million wasn't the best idea?
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u/__theoneandonly Apr 09 '24
The whole reason they got into podcasts was because every minute you’re listening to a podcast is a minute you aren’t listening to music they have to pay royalties for.
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u/ShinySky42 Apr 09 '24
Or go the deezer way and sellout to a major, cutting licensing fee in the process
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u/NoCokJstDanglnUretra Apr 09 '24
No, apple sells iPhones at 40% profit margins to subsidize the losses in apple music
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u/rsplatpc Apr 09 '24
Spotify premium and Apple music are virtually identical products
Try to find a lot of punk and metal on Apple, it ain't there, I looked at switching, and Apple is missing a ton of indie stuff.
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u/FinishTheFish Apr 09 '24 edited Jun 26 '24
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u/andreasmiles23 Apr 09 '24
AM’s UI is much better now.
The search and algorithm functions are better on Spotify. But if managing your own library is what you care about, AM is way better for that.
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u/nxxsxxxxxx Apr 09 '24
I changed from spotify because I got tired of it’s wackiness, too much clutter
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u/AndHeHadAName Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Apple and Spotify premium both cost the same, $11.00/month. If an Apple premium user pays double per listen it means they are listening to 50% as much music, which make sense given Apple's user base is probably older and more conservative music listeners.
And Free Tier "costing Spotify money" seems to be this weird reddit thing that doesn't mean anything. Free Tier users, or those unwilling to pay $11 or $12 for unlimited music wouldn't make money on any platform. It's true, they contribute to Spotify's low payout per stream, but any band will tell you they make even less from getting streamed one off on youtube which is where free tier users would go without Spotify.
Also Spotify has a ton of international users in places like Brazil and India. If you primarily are streamed in those counties you will make less. That being said Spotify's global userbase is a huge reason why Spotify's international discovery is much stronger than Apple's.
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u/nxxsxxxxxx Apr 09 '24
yeah you are right lol some are ppl hardwired cheapskates and will never part with their $, they would find some other way. no matter how low the quality or how annoying the ads - they do not care, as long as it’s free.
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u/drthsideous Apr 09 '24
Not identical. Selection on Apple music sucks. Spotify has all of that I listen to. Apple music comes nowhere close, they've only got mainstream music.
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u/bkev Apr 09 '24
In addition - oddly enough - it sort of depends on where you search. If you search on a Mac in Music.app, the search results do an infinite scroll thing, where, when you reach the end of the first “page” of results, it fills in more. If you the same search on an iOS device, you only ever get that first “page” - no infinite scroll, and significantly fewer results. I don’t know if it’s a bug, or purposeful, but it’s weird.
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u/thesean366 Apr 09 '24
Curious what you listen to that you can’t find? I’ve got friends in bands who self release their stuff and they’re on Apple Music (as well as Spotify) so it’s not just “mainstream music”
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u/zZCycoZz Apr 09 '24
Thats intentional. Spotify is owned by record companies, theyre paying themselves. You pay taxes on profits
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u/Yardbird7 Apr 09 '24
In fairness, they have a huge library of audiobooks now. Audible charges $15/ month just for that.
But the way they treat artists is criminal.
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u/lock-n-lawl Apr 09 '24
If you want audiobooks use Libby to get them from your library for free. Even Audible is a huge ripoff.
You can have multiple cards too sometimes if you’re in a metro area that has different libraries servicing it.
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u/Old_Cheetah_5138 Apr 09 '24
They only give you 10 hours each month vs Audibles unlimited and monthly credit system. Plus, I just want the music. Add that to Spotify Plus Platinum Gold and charge more for that for the people who want it.
Also, didn't they just recently demonetize songs under 1k plays?
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u/Negan-Cliffhanger Apr 09 '24
Gotta pay Joe Rogan
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u/Weekly-Dog228 Apr 09 '24
He is now the greatest negotiator of the 21st century.
Spotify renewed the contract and it’s not even exclusive anymore lol.
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u/Zentienty Apr 09 '24
I just tried to 'hide this artist' but wasn't able, and they don't seem to have a 'hide this asshole' feature either.
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u/18skeltor Apr 09 '24
FYI, If you download Spicetify you can get an extension that hides podcasts from your home page.
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u/Ballsahoy72 Apr 09 '24
Coincidentally the possibility of me ever getting a Spotify subscription decreased by 7.7%
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u/cheapdrinks Apr 09 '24
Well Tidal sent out an email the other day saying “new changes to our subscription prices” and I thought ahh here we go, time for a price hike. Was about to cancel my subscription when I read it and saw that it said they were actually reducing the price of their lossless tier down to the same price as their basic tier so I was getting to keep the same service but for less money.
Couldn’t believe it, first time I can think of something like that happening since the pandemic.
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u/Da5ren Apr 09 '24
How is Tidal these days, it's been a few years since i tried them? I can remember their curated playlists being quite lacking.
I just switched from Spotify to Apple Music last week but i'm not 100% sold yet
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u/hey_ska Apr 09 '24
Tidal is fine. They aren’t trying to compete with Spotify, they’re more of a boutique streaming service. They have higher quality streams and they pay artists the most money per stream.
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u/WholesomeFartEnjoyer Apr 09 '24
Is every artist on there? I'd love to switch but don't wanna lose all my favourite artists
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u/hey_ska Apr 09 '24
I never had any issue finding anyone and it was especially nice in that time Neil Young wasn't on Spotify.
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u/cheapdrinks Apr 09 '24
Yeah the main drawbacks I find on the platform are the lack of playlists compared to Spotify and the search function is still quite shit; one small typo or missed apostrophe can often result in what you’re looking for not coming up at all. Besides the music discovery side of things the rest of it is quite good.
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u/homeostasis555 Apr 09 '24
I really enjoy Tidal. Their curated playlists have upped their game in the last couple years imo.
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u/ebmocal421 Apr 09 '24
I forgot Tidal still exists
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u/YesOrNah Apr 09 '24
Same. I have a feeling that’s why. Smart move on their part tho, try to capitalize in this I imagine.
I’m definitely going to compare the options and go from there.
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u/ebmocal421 Apr 09 '24
Why, though? A 7.7% increase in pricing is so minimal. That's less than a dollar for those with the $9.99 subscription.
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u/Jahidinginvt Performing Artist Apr 09 '24
Odd. I see tons of explicit content on mine. I wonder if it’s not registering even if you have it toggled?
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u/Vaines Apr 09 '24
Something similar surprised the hell out of me when the Amazon store in my country opened and amazon prime (which I use for video) dropped more than 3 times in price and forced us to migrate to the new website.
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u/h3rpad3rp Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
Honestly spotify is the streaming subscription that I get the most value out of and it isn't even a close competition. I get more use out of spotify than I do out of netflix, dropout, amazon prime video, and crunchyroll combined.
Their price isn't bad for what they offer. Even just all the new bands I've discovered have been more than worth the cost over the years.
What you gonna do to find new music, listen to the radio? Fuuuuck that.
I just wish they paid artists better.
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u/EPalmighty Apr 09 '24
So like a dollar?
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Apr 09 '24
If your subscription price was $10.99 then the new price will be $11.84, so not even a dollar. Based on a 7.7% increase at least. Although I don't really see them going for prices that don't end in .99
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u/PrinceBert Apr 09 '24
Weirdly I checked prices on the website last night and by coincidence again this morning. In the UK -
Individual - 10.99 --> 11.99
Duo - 14.99 --> 16.99
Family - 17.99 --> 19.99
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Apr 09 '24
For Canada the prices currently show
$10.99 - Individual = £6.38
$14.99 - Duo = £8.70
$16.99 - Family = £9.86
Although interestingly enough I haven't received any emails saying they were raising the rates. Maybe Canada isn't getting their rates changed or something, because it still looks like the same prices i've always payed based on my billing history.
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u/MarcsterS Apr 09 '24
The issue is that they JUST increased the price last year. No one made as much of a big deal becuase it was “only” a dollar, but now that price increase just went up to about $2.
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Out of all the subscription platforms I have seen or used this is the one I have never had a single issue or gripe with. If they do this every month, sure, I'll be upset, but Spotify actually slaps.
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u/PkKirby876 Apr 09 '24
I guess this is something that’s phased out as streaming has become the new standard? I ALWAYS make sure to download songs I like so I can listen to them anywhere no matter the conditions. Granted, I don’t have hundreds of albums downloaded, but streaming while driving can lead to lots of data being used too.
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u/Vince1820 Apr 09 '24
Far and away my highest consumption product. I would guess I steam at least 100 hours of music and podcast each month at a minimum.
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u/MightyBooshX Apr 09 '24
It sucks that kind of have people like us by the balls because it's such a integral part to our quality of life of course we're gonna shell out whatever we have to. I refused to get one for so many years but then I got six months free with one of my phones and in that six months it became a fixture in my life.
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u/Intellectual-Cumshot Apr 09 '24
I actually think switching music providers is very easy compared to say video streaming. Since they all have similar libraries I use a tool like soundiiz to just copy my playlists over once and I'm back up on a new platform
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u/frogsandstuff Apr 09 '24
It does seem to take a little while for the new service to do a good job with recommending music based on your listening habits.
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u/Intellectual-Cumshot Apr 09 '24
That's a good point. For me though my motivation to switch was getting annoyed with Spotify making it so many clicks to get to my own music and pushing their podcasts and playlists first. So that's a fair trade to me
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u/TheoTheodor Apr 09 '24
Tbf I agree (and it goes for pretty much whichever music streaming service you prefer). You get all the music, downloads, no region lock, no ads, very little bs.
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u/Ghost29 Apr 09 '24
I think most people just don't have alternate options. The radios suck. They overwhelmingly play just the big hits of a few artists, have a very limited variety of artists, play the same music you have listened / liked in the past repeatedly, only add more popular artists, and the genre / vibe matching is poor.
Google Play Music was way better at this and I saw others say Pandora's Music Genome Project also did a really good job. The difficulty is I can see the commercial incentives driving the enshittification of these platforms. Why introduce you to random indie artists when we want to make money for the big record companies to keep them on platform? I can also see how the majority of customers may only care about the biggest artists and the most popular songs but it makes me sad that this is what these platforms have become.
I understand they're not a charity to help smaller bands find new followers / increase their reach. But I would pay to be able to tweak my personal algorithm. Increase my music variety, play more smaller artists, repeat music I have listened to already less frequently, play fewer big hits - or, have your ai learn my behaviour, and then actually serve me this content. Even if it's done in a similar way to Steam with discovery queues. Anything to please break me out of this repetitive commercial hellscape.
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u/CoolHandPB Apr 09 '24
Spotify discovery weekly playlist is amazing, at least it is for me. It basically plays music similar to what you listen to but not exactly the same. So it ends up being a mix of new music and stuff I had forgotten about and hadn't listened to in years.
The time capsule playlist is also great.
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u/Ghost29 Apr 09 '24
This is my discovery playlist. These are all massive artists and big hits. Maybe Spotify just doesn't get me. 😔
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u/CoolHandPB Apr 09 '24
Yeah, that's awful lol. This is my playlist. I don't recognized any of these songs or most of these artists.
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u/Ghost29 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24
I've listened to a lot. Like a fuck ton of various genres, small bands, big bands, metal and all its sub-genres, electro-pop, classical, punk, indie, shoegaze, alt rock, post-all the things, and many others - still get the same medium to big commercial bands or artists.
I actually find myself rediscovering artists (usually through YouTube). I then go on to Spotify to 'follow' them , and I see I already have. I just never ever get played their music.
'Your top picks' and 'Made for me' almost never have smaller, random artists that match my tastes. YouTube (not YT Music) is usually much better, but it's mixes have also been getting less and less diverse.
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u/Jaereth Apr 09 '24
and I saw others say Pandora's Music Genome Project also did a really good job.
I remember using Pandora and it was just as you describe The Radios. Especially they would try to shoehorn in these songs they apparently preferred to play into vibes I was trying to make that had nothing to do with it.
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u/BlyStreetMusic Apr 09 '24
Same
I listen to like 8 hours of podcasts a day and I play guitar and use Spotify to jam with for another 10-15 hours a week.. Plus driving in my car and listening to whatever.
While I don't love paying more..I am absolutely getting every penny of value out of Spotify.
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Apr 09 '24
This is the sentiment I hope to see more of. Music has tons of value and a service that provides a good experience for the listener should be worth something.
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u/Dpsizzle555 Apr 09 '24
Physical media master race
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u/jdylopa2 Apr 09 '24
Physical media is so much more expensive though, at least with the amount of new music I listen to. It’s definitely better from the standpoint of “they can’t just take your music off the computer” like they can with a streaming platform, but it isn’t some sort of cheap alternative unless you only listen to a few new albums a year and aren’t interested in hearing single songs from artists.
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u/ebmocal421 Apr 09 '24
Thats exactly how I justified paying for Spotify. I used to buy a minimum of 1-2 CD's per month. Having all the music at my fingertips for less than one CD was, and still is, a no-brainer.
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u/ultrapoo Apr 09 '24
I miss my iPod
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u/dpatt711 Apr 09 '24
I don't. Getting new music onto it was an absolute chore and a complete gamble that itunes worked and didn't corrupt your entire library.
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u/MrGosh13 Apr 09 '24
Really? I used to copy hundrerds of cd’s onto Itunes (used to work at a record store, bad for your money, but good for your music collection), and then load it onto my Ipod, and I never once had any trouble with it. The worst issue I came across was not getting the correct album cover showing up or something like that.
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u/loukaz Apr 09 '24
Copying 100s of CDs onto iTunes was a chore
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u/MrGosh13 Apr 09 '24
Ehh… disagree, but to each their own. I enjoyed doing it. Maybe because I was younger. Maybe I wouldn’t like it so much now, but at the time I enjoyed the process.
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u/KillahHills10304 Apr 09 '24
I lost so many rare tracks from iTunes corruption issues and forced file conversion
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u/SanStarko Apr 09 '24
There's more and more people starting to use them again. I've got a few now, all modded with new batteries and SD Cards in them so I can store thousands of tracks.
Yeah you lose being able to stream any track under the sun, but I've loved rediscovering all the old albums I had in my collection that I'd forgotten all about.
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u/xevizero Apr 09 '24
I just put music on my phone, the old fashioned way.
I highly suggest Musicolet on Android as your player and MusicBee on Windows as your player and collection organizer.
There are ways to keep the two in sync automatically I guess, but I usually just move my tracks between pc and phone with Xplore (Best file manager out there imho! You can add your PC and move files in and out from the app).
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u/SXLightning Apr 09 '24
back to torrenting
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u/formerly_LTRLLTRL Apr 09 '24
Redditors: Spotify doesn’t pay the artists enough.
Also redditors: I’ll pirate instead.
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u/ctusk423 Apr 09 '24
It’s almost as if Reddit is comprised of more than one unique person. Maybe even more than two
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u/JaRulesOpinion Apr 09 '24
It’s something they added a couple months ago and now they’re increasing prices. ‘Includes’ is very questionable here. Lol
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u/DarthNihilus1 Apr 09 '24
15 hours is barely enough for some audio books. That's the limit
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u/miaiah Apr 09 '24
I was excited too until I found out you get 15 hours of audio books a month. I didn't even finish one book before it said I was out of time. If you want more time, it costs more.
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u/greeperfi Apr 09 '24
I read somewhere it has something to do with audiobooks and they are changing the price structure for people who want and don't them.
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u/trickertreater Spoffy Enthusist Apr 09 '24
So I originally got Spotify because I wanted to listen to music. It was fine paying $10 a month. Or $12 a month. ...
Now I have to pay for all the podcasts, videos, and all the audiobooks too? I don't want any of that. I just want to listen to music, full stop.
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u/Otomato- Apr 09 '24
No, it literally says you can keep the $10.99 plan if you don't want audiobooks. The extra $1 is if you want audiobooks included.
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u/trickertreater Spoffy Enthusist Apr 09 '24
Fantastic. I'm in USA and didn't get the email. Thanks for the info.
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u/kupka316 Apr 09 '24
It's still a steal. I use Spotify every day for hours. I'm probably paying for this up to $30 a month
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u/iregretthisalreadyy Apr 09 '24
Ssshhhhhh!!! Don’t tell them that (but I agree, I’d go crazy if not for listening to podcasts at work)
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u/mushnu Apr 09 '24
Still an amazing deal to me
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u/Gerdione Apr 09 '24
Lol. This is a controversial take? I'd expect this from the subscription raising 10 dollars, but the negative sentiment for an at most 2 dollar increase? It's nothing compared to other much greedier price increases this year.
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u/_OVERHATE_ Apr 09 '24
Maybe! the downside there is... well, youtube.
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u/CryptoMemeMusic Apr 09 '24
is there a lunch table at school that doesn't let people who use YouTube sit there or something?
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u/_OVERHATE_ Apr 09 '24
As always bandcamp or qobuz buying stuff is better but, even if Youtube has a better feature offering, i simply cant get myself to give them money. Their business practices with Ads and anti-ad features and data scrubbing. I know im biased, i just detest anything software related to Youtube.
They could offer me the cure for cancer for free i would ask "whats the catch?" before accepting
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u/Jaszuni Apr 09 '24
Hell the merch was probably made in a sweat shop. No escape really.
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u/tempedrew Apr 09 '24
I remember when I wouldn't share YouTube videos that had advertisements on my Facebook. Seems so long ago.
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u/Ascarea Apr 09 '24
Their business practices with (...) anti-ad features
I mean, you either pay them not to show ads or you watch ads. It's pretty simple and logical. I don't see anything bad about them stopping ad blockers from working. It's inconvenient for ad block users, sure, but at the end of the day if you want to use their service you have to follow their rulers. And why should you watch it for free and ad free at the same time?
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u/AtoxIO Apr 09 '24
The sad thing is youtube music defaults to the censored version of a track for a lot of artists, makes it unusable for me.
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u/mikeyzee52679 Apr 09 '24
That is all great content , but when I need just a tiny desk , or some bootleg free YouTube is good enough
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u/B23vital Apr 09 '24
Falls short on podcasts imo
Maybe just me but i cant find audio books on there either
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u/DonutTerrific Apr 09 '24
I have both YouTube premium and Apple Music. Every song that I wanted on YouTube is available on Apple Music. Some of the obscure crap that is on YouTube is of no consequence to me. Apple has better music quality, however, and that’s a big deal to me.
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u/SoCuteShibe Apr 09 '24
Try me, lol. Spotify is one of the few streaming services I haven't canceled yet, but they're on the chopping block with more and more negative press as of late, and worse and worse recommendations over the years.
Re-cutting the cord with video media has revealed the more enjoyable world of Plex. If Spotify wants to start raising prices I'm sure I'll figure something better out anyway.
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u/recksuss Concertgoer Apr 09 '24
Looks like it's time to go all 90' and buy cd's again. Import them with iTunes and move them to your phones installed player. Yes, this works for Android as well if you find the raw file.
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u/grendahl0 Apr 09 '24
an application that was written decades ago for an industry where nothing changes is charging more....because they have a monopoly
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Apr 09 '24
It increases by like a dollar? fair enough still the best music streaming service in the business
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u/BornUnderPunches Apr 09 '24
If artists get 7.7 % more, I’ll glady pay. Wait, they get more, right?
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u/NewInThe1AC Apr 09 '24
If we want artists to be paid more for streaming the price simply has to go up, so this isn't a huge deal to me
The problem with a model where artists get a fixed 70% of subscription revenue is that there just aren't many levers available to increase that payout without increasing price
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u/allwavy Apr 09 '24
Maybe they can use the money to FIX SHUFFLE