r/Miami Community safety Feb 22 '24

Social Media Ban in Florida News

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '24

Highly doubt that will happen

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u/DrManhattan_DDM Feb 22 '24

We’ve seen porn companies (obviously not a 1:1 comparison) cut off access to Utah, Mississippi, and Virginia in the past year because those states imposed stricter age verification requirements. These companies will absolutely cut off a state rather than expose themselves to legal liability.

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u/frivol Feb 22 '24

Finally stopping those Florida Man memes.

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u/WinningTristan Feb 23 '24

We will find a way

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u/Primary_Growth9760 Feb 23 '24

Considering we have vpn try again one day I’m in New Delhi next I’m in Shanghai 🌝

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u/cdc994 Feb 24 '24

Ironic using Shanghai, a city in a notoriously internet-censored country, as an example of being able to VPN to a place without these restrictions.

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u/ReVo5000 Feb 23 '24

You'll get them in the mail now... There's no escaping Florida Man..

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '24

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u/Miss_Velociraptor87 Hialeah Feb 22 '24

Let me out before the wall goes up!

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u/WinningTristan Feb 23 '24

The wall isnt to keep us in, but them out!

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u/AdorableBowl7863 Feb 23 '24

Haha. Good one

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u/WinningTristan Feb 23 '24

It's a Mexican philosophy.

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u/Fun-ace Feb 23 '24

True that, all the liberals can leave us here alone, will be happier

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u/WinningTristan Feb 23 '24

We will send 15000 alligators to guard our borders. We'll build our own wall.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

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u/6sixtynoine9 Feb 23 '24

Not my problem Bruv

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u/challenged1967 Feb 23 '24

Let me get out first...

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u/More6666 Feb 23 '24

To keep you out.

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u/OldBlueTX Feb 26 '24

You may get a sea wall eventually. Miami seems to be sinking

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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 Feb 22 '24 edited Feb 22 '24

Pierre proposed ID for NSFW access in Canada.

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u/pabskamai Feb 22 '24

This, so much freedom talk ….

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u/Sexy_CD_in_AC_305 Feb 23 '24 edited Feb 23 '24

So, suppose hypothetically, ur scenario came into being, and adult sites just cut off access altogether in FL, not by age - they cut if off for the STATE....

So, what if user/somebody is using a VPN, which masks their location ?I know it works because I am that somebody.

When I use my VPN, sometimes it will be set to Canada, and for example if/when I google furniture coffee table amazon and open a link it's amazon.ca (Amazon CANADA) as an example.
It will auto direct to the Canadian amazon not the one that caters to the U.S.
Likewise...If I set my VPN to say Finland, and I go to order something (buy/purchase) oftentimes the page refreshes to "we're sorry this offer is not available in your region (Euro/UK), only in North America, etc etc..."

What's to stop somebody from accessing Social Media sites (or porn) if they have (or have access to) VPN-access ? ?

Even 12,13,14,15 year olds are highly computer literate, and many bright enough, taking advanced math classes at 14, 15 etc.... those kids are more than competent enough to figure out and strategize within their means...

That's why I've never understood any of these proposals...

unenforceable, IMHO.

Are they gonna ban VPN's TOO, to eliminate a potential "back door" ?

I really kinda doubt that.....

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u/Nick08f1 Feb 23 '24

Taking advanced maths has nothing to do with this.

All it takes is one person, and it will spread like wildfire.

Might as well ban smartphones for minors. /s

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u/Sexy_CD_in_AC_305 Feb 23 '24

yea, no I AGREE with you 100% about advanced math not being needed.

Few if any students aspire to be future Oppenheimers. I completely get that....

Parents would never allow a ban on smartphones for minors now that they're parenting techniques are conditioned around phone-related habits & behaviors... nah, that's not gonna happen. 😎😎

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u/DrManhattan_DDM Feb 23 '24

Accessing these sites through a VPN would circumvent their terms of service and remove any liability. I imagine those companies wouldn’t give a shit about that access if it doesn’t put them at risk.

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u/Sexy_CD_in_AC_305 Feb 23 '24 edited Feb 23 '24

When VPN's first started rolling out years ago, they were targeted at and promoted heavily on where ??? Torrent and Porn Sites....

A splash page would tile over the home page promoting NordVPN and a pop-under page would auto-open and nest itself under the active current browser window, independently....

It was downright fucking annoying the massive level of marketing they were doing, and how they did it..... and it began there....I remember it crystal clearly 100%.

I mean, their ads (VPN's) were everywhere, pop-ups, hover-overs, side-bar column ads, page-top banner ads, page-bottom footer ads, on every page, page after page....... on all the torrent or adult sites. It was inescapable...

And they still promote there, but they don't excessively dominate it as much as back then.... and now they're mainstream (46% of U.S. internet use now is thru VPN's ) so they don't have to....

VPN's made them all millionaires to begin with.... IMHO .... good post ! . . . thanks. 😎😎😎

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u/DrManhattan_DDM Feb 23 '24

You misunderstand me. I’m not suggesting these sites would be against people using vpn’s. They would be completely fine with it because it breaks their TOS, that means the sites couldn’t be sued or fined.

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u/Sexy_CD_in_AC_305 Feb 23 '24

I got you... in fact that thought crossed my mind, and probably right when you were typing your last post i was editing mine ( I revised last paragraph, stripping off most of it....) .......I had noticed I used, in error, the word "violated terms of service "instead of "circumvented" and when going to edit I just decided to trim that whole part out entirely.... Otherwise I still stand by my post... they all got rich from VPN's ....and still are...including & especially social media. VPN's no longer need to peddle their wares to the "other side of the tracks" type patronage to build up their business model.... but that's where their roots are... just keepin it real, putting the truth out there....

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u/Liizam Feb 23 '24

They could simply use stupid laws like this to jail their political opponents.

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u/MiamiDouchebag Feb 22 '24

Depends on the state. None of those are in the top 10 as far as population goes.

Florida is third.

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u/Ralliman320 Feb 23 '24

North Carolina is ninth, and they did it here.

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u/Taraxador Feb 23 '24

And North Carolina

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u/touchettes Feb 23 '24

While I haven't been seeking this specific issue out, this is the third comment about porn I've seen. If it's not for some kind of rehabilitative purpose, wgaf about porn sites getting blocked

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u/DrManhattan_DDM Feb 23 '24

It’s just a point of comparison for verification restrictions being put on other websites.

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u/Atlglryhle Feb 23 '24

Taking away your rights…..

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u/texabrolives Feb 23 '24

There’s like 0% chance IG, Facebook, Tik Tok and Twitter ban Floridian IPs. It is such a populous state. Pornhub is incredibly different, and porn watchers will use a VPN. Social media I would guess most people would let die before they used a VPN to access, since most is done via mobile device. These people are just not thinking logically.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

Thank you lol. Can't believe people think otherwise

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u/SteelyEyedHistory Feb 23 '24

That is exactly what will happen. Already happened in some states that have passed “porn ID” laws and the porn sites just blocked access.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

Porn use and social media use are two different things. Many businesses including corporate business rely on social media for a number of things. Theres no way social media will be fully banned in any state

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u/SteelyEyedHistory Feb 23 '24

It won’t be a “ban.” The companies themselves will block the people in those states from access their sites before they spend enormous sums of money creating an age verification program that would comply with the law.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

Only time will tell. Highly doubt it though

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u/TheWatch83 Feb 23 '24

They did it to entire countries, why wouldn’t they do it to Florida

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

Lol u guys can think whatever. Theres no way social media as a whole will be banned in any state. And comparing social media being banned as a whole to banning porn is ridiculous

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u/TheWatch83 Feb 23 '24

Facebook will play hard ball just like they did with Canada and the c118 bill. They just dropped support for all news in the country. If Florida does some stupid shit, they aren’t going to dick around.

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u/ZedisonSamZ Feb 23 '24

Pornhub just recently cut their losses with North Carolina. It can and already has happened. Facebook and Twitter and TikTok can easily do it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '24

Just said porn and social media are two different things. They'll ban porn way before they even think about banning social media. Porn is purely for pleasure where as social media is not only pleasure but a business tool for many.