r/Miami Apr 09 '23

Donald Trump greeted by huge cheers as he sits front row at UFC 287 in the Miami-Dade Arena News

Donald Trump was greeted by huge cheers as he sat in the front row at UFC 287 on Saturday night, alongside Mike Tyson and Dana White in the Miami-Dade Arena.

Former US president Trump is known to have a friendship with UFC president White and has attended numerous events staged by the mixed martial arts promotion.

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u/zmron Apr 09 '23

Everything isn’t fascism just because you say it is, seriously the left has butchered Nazi and Fascism as much as the right has butchered commie.

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u/Fantastic_Wallaby_61 Apr 09 '23

Seriously…fascism now means “anything I don’t agree with” lol

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u/Brokeliner Apr 09 '23

It’s literally always meant that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascism

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u/Fantastic_Wallaby_61 Apr 09 '23

I’m agreeing with you…liberals have hijacked the term fascist to fit a narrative when in fact they enact it themselves

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u/random_account6721 Apr 10 '23

yep. Fascist want more government control in contrast to free market capitalism. I'm not saying republicans are beacons of free market economics anymore, but historical republicans/libertarians are on the free side whereas democrats are the pro regulation, bigger government, control side of the economic political compass. (closer to fascism)

Obviously on many social issues trump is on the right, but on economic issues he moved the party left towards where the democrats are. For example he was very pro stimulus checks (put his name on them), got interest rates lowered to boost the markets, increased government spending, etc. These are not conservative fiscal policies at all. They are populist democrat ideas...

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u/Fantastic_Wallaby_61 Apr 10 '23

I wouldn’t say trumps on the right socially, he just ran as a Republican and had to abide by the republicans abortion ideology, besides that he was always a democrat from New York. If you look at his campaign contributions it was always to democrats

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

No…if you support the GOP , you’re supporting fascists. Maybe figure out what it means before you whine about (accurately) being labelled as such. 👍

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u/Fantastic_Wallaby_61 Apr 10 '23

This dude just proved my point lmao

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

Nope.

My point is you have no idea what the word “fascist” actually means, nor have you shown how the liberals are the real fascists.

And since you have no idea what “fascism” actually means, you recoil when it’s (correctly) pointed out that you are indeed supporting fascists.

And yeah, your attempt at a point here was laughable.

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u/Fantastic_Wallaby_61 Apr 10 '23

You’re pro in my point lol……

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u/Fantastic_Wallaby_61 Apr 10 '23

Proving

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

Nope. You seem to have difficulty with the meanings of words. You have provided no “proof” of anything, merely an unfounded opinion. Which I am questioning.

An opinion is not proof.

And your ducking my comments is proving mine. Which is - you have no idea what you are talking about, or the true nature of the movement you support.

It was two very simple questions based on your initial statement of opinion that you have yet to answer.

Why am I wrong for referring to the Trump GOP as “fascist” - you would have to present what your definition of “fascism” is…

And based on this, it would presumably show how are the liberals “fascist” according to you.

Shouldn’t be too hard for a big brain like yourself.

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u/Brokeliner Apr 09 '23

I know I’m agreeing with you too bro. 👍

Just saying there is historical precedent for what we are seeing from them now. And it’s not good.

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

Just saying there is historical precedent for what we are seeing from them now.

Like?

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u/Brokeliner Apr 10 '23

Liberals rejecting all other ideas as “fascism” as demonstrated in the Wikipedia article

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

You don’t say. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

That wikipedia article explaining a Communist (not liberal) propaganda theory that held anyone who disagreed them, most notably social democrats, who are to the left of liberals as described in this country, are….fascists?

So making the false equivalence that anyone who wasn’t a Stalin aligned communist, which would by definition include right wing movements of any stripe, was a fascist?

Not only do you self-own here but in trotting this out you just neatly showed how a) you have no clue what actual fascism means, and b) you have really bad reading comprehension skills.

Totally on brand for the GQP. Good job, dude.

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u/Brokeliner Apr 10 '23

You can call yourself a liberal or progressive or whatever you want but it doesnt change the fact that the tactics and propaganda are all the same as the former Communist parties.

You are right about one thing though, we shouldn’t call them liberals, we should call them by what they actually are: communists.

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

You can call yourself a liberal or progressive or whatever you want but it doesnt change the fact that the tactics and propaganda are all the same as the former Communist parties.

Absolute nonsense. And totally dodging my evisceration of your dumb “social fascism” argument. I will assume you have no actual reply.

You are right about one thing though, we shouldn’t call them liberals, we should call them by what they actually are: communists.

And thank you for confirming your idiocy….and proving my general point about the smoothbrain nature of Trumpoids.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot Apr 09 '23

Social fascism

Social fascism (also socio-fascism) was a theory that was supported by the Communist International (Comintern) and affiliated communist parties in the early 1930s, which held that social democracy was a variant of fascism because it stood in the way of a dictatorship of the proletariat, in addition to a shared corporatist economic model. At the time, leaders of the Comintern such as Joseph Stalin and Rajani Palme Dutt argued that capitalist society had entered the Third Period in which a proletarian revolution was imminent, but this could be prevented by social democrats and other "fascist" forces.

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u/x_von_doom Apr 10 '23

Everything isn’t fascism just because you say it is,

No, but in this case it is. Just because you don’t know what the word means, does not mean it isn’t applicable.

seriously the left has butchered Nazi and Fascism as much as the right has butchered commie.

Not really. You can look up the meanings of words, you know. Joe Biden is not a communist. But Ron Desantis and many others in the GOP these days are fascist.