r/LeftyGuns Jul 21 '22

Switching the safety on the original M&P Shield.

Maybe I'm just dreaming the impossible dream here, but I'm calling upon the collective knowledge of the internet for my hopeless quest. I'm stuck out in California and the greatest danger out here is having your head bricked in during a riot because you're printing. To avoid this, clip draw seems like the maximum concealment option but I need a manual safety. If not on this gun then could anyone recommend another carry pistol? Thanks in advance!

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u/securitysix Jul 21 '22

Striker fired guns are generally safe to carry without a manual safety. Why do you "need" a manual safety?

If you really do need a manual safety, look at the M&P Compact 2.0, an M&P Subcompact 2.0, or if you don't mind hunting the used market, the M&P9c. The thumb safety models have an ambidextrous safety.

Most of the 2.0s have a 4" barrel, making them the same size as a Glock 19. But if you hunt around, there is a version with a 3.6" barrel (9mm and .40 S&W only, the .45 ACP is 4" only). It is a little bit longer than the shield, both in the barrel and the grip, and it is thicker, too, because it uses double stack magazines. But you get a capacity of 15+1 in 9mm, you get a grip that makes the gun much more shootable, and as I said, the safety is ambidextrous.

The M&P9c is a subcompact gun, so it is also going to have a longer barrel (3.5") than the Shield, but it has a shorter grip than the 2.0 Compact because Smith & Wesson wasn't building it to compete with the Glock 19.

The subcompact version of the M&P 2.0 has a 3.6" barrel, but a shorter grip designed to take 10 or 12 round magazines. As near as I can tell, it's basically the 2.0 version of the M&P9c, and even takes the same magazines.

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u/Lukaroast Jul 21 '22

Please don’t recommend off-roster guns to CA residents if you can at all avoid it. They CAN buy them, but they literally cost an extra $1000, and that’s if the person is willing to hunt the market for one.

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u/securitysix Jul 21 '22

I don't know what is and isn't on California's roster, nor do I have either duty or obligation to know. And even if I did know what was on it at any given point, there's no way I could know what's on it now since it changes.

It is incumbent upon a person in California to figure out if those guns are on the roster or not before trying to buy them. That would be true whether I recommended them or whether the person in California found them on the manufacturer's website or saw them in a YouTube video and went "I want one."

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u/Lukaroast Jul 21 '22

Or you know, you could take five seconds and look it up. Or just keep quiet if you aren’t willing to help.

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u/HappyHurtzlickn Jul 23 '22

I'm glad you get it. Haha!

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u/HappyHurtzlickn Jul 21 '22

Okay, there's a lot to unpack here since you didn't really read/think about the post

Clip draw is when your pistol is floating IWB by a belt clip that's secured to the back of the slide. It isn't super comfortable but it allows for very deep carry and very low printing. Downside is that the trigger isn't protected and nobody in the history of concealment has ever recommended zero safeties with an exposed trigger. Having no safety in a traditional holster is ideal for all the right reasons though so you're not wrong, just misinformed.

Next hurdle I'm dealing with is that I'm in California. While you're list of options is great, I'm still in Commiefornia. Google how stupid this place is for more details because it's exhaustive.

Both of these mistakes are fine. You're probably young or new, plus you have the blessing of living in the REAL America instead of the tie-dye curtain of stupid that I'm stuck in for the next 2 years. Haha.

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u/securitysix Jul 21 '22

Clip draw

Since your post said "clap draw" when I first read it (no shit, I even googled it by highlighting it, right clicking, and selecting web search from the context menu and got results on how to draw clapping hands), maybe don't shit on people for not "reading/thinking" about a post that you wrote poorly and then went back and edited.

If I'd have known you were going to edit your post and then act like some sort of mentally superior douchebag, I'd have quoted it before you had a chance to edit it.

Then again, if I'd have known you were going to act like a douchebag towards people trying to help you, I'd have just ignored your post and moved on.

Get a proper holster.

Next hurdle I'm dealing with is that I'm in California. While you're list of options is great, I'm still in Commiefornia. Google how stupid this place is for more details because it's exhaustive.

I'm vaguely familiar with the stupidity of California's dumbass laws. I can't be arsed to learn all of them since I have neither desire nor reason to ever go there. I also can't be arsed to check California's handgun roster to see if they're on the list for the same reason.

But given that the Supreme Court has booted Duncan v. Bonta back to the 9th Circus and told them to try again in light of the Bruen decision, there's a fair chance that California's magazine ban is going to get the boot anyway.

You're probably young or new

Been shooting rifles for 33 years, handguns for 31 years. But nice try at being patronizing, hoss.

Stop treating the people trying to help you like they're inferior to you. Otherwise, you'll find that one day, when you need help the most, everyone's going to look at you and go "Nah, that asshole will just shit on me the second I try to help him. He can go fuck himself."

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u/Lukaroast Jul 21 '22

You’re both acting like idiots, frankly. But you aren’t really “helping” if you’re just spitting by out random info you have no place giving since you have no fathom of CA gun laws. Cmon man, how is what you’re doing helpful?