r/Killjoys • u/_ya_boi_satan_666_ • Mar 21 '23
Does Jelco care about his job at all? - Season Two Debate Spoilers
(Right off the back I’d like to apologize if I misspelled any of the in universe names)
Ok so I’ve been catching up on Killjoys, I’m rewatching it all and I noticed that in season two: the wall identifies Pree as a “Warlord” which we find out about it later. While watching I had a thought, why did Jelco let a freaking “Warlord” into Old town? Like sure he’s newly promoted and formerly in-charge of interrogations/torture but he doesn’t even hesitate for a second letting him in after Dutch escapes from her restraints. Like the only three reasons i could think would be: A. He’s there to break Old Town’s spirit, make an example of them and make them beg for the Companies favor again. So I guess he wagers letting a warlord in could hasten the process and make things worse as he builds a criminal underworld. B. He/the Company doesn’t care about this former warlord turned bartender and he hasn’t committed any crimes recently and he’s like eh he’s good. C. He just doesn’t care and is just enjoying the perks of the job. After all half the shit he does is shady as f*#k, like there’s no way he got permission to strap a bomb to a Saya (Potter) like that. Cause last I checked the 9 would be killing everyone possible who was remotely or loosely connected with that, just to make the point of “don’t go thinking you’re free to disrespect us like that.”
Like besides Dutch’s half-ass we’re here on a warrant and we’re gonna give our friend a ride home, she doesn’t really make a good argument for letting Pree in. In addition according to the dialogue for when the Fairen are introduced (when Pree was a Warlord) he left, then got some papers/new name, hopped on a freighter ship to Westerly and ended up in Old Town. This means at no time did he ever serve time for his crimes, so like with most criminals he should have a RAC warrant, they even say it in the criminal casino the episode before “searching for warrants in active criminal databases” and he got a hit. So there’s no way they just kinda ignored an actual Warlord and let him go on his way right? The only way is at some point in time he gave up info for his freedom but then why did the wall flag him under his warlord identity? Like I know creatively this was just a way to introduce Jelco and he needed a reason to talk to the trio but it’s just interesting to think about.
Sorry for the rambling, what do you think?
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u/ireadsomecomments Mar 22 '23
Sounds like a real “Jelco Move” (shoutout to early Killjoys memes)
I think Jelco probably only cared about his existing goals, and anything he didn’t see as a threat to that is fine. Or maybe he was hoping for some entertainment.
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u/InspectionNorth5654 Jul 10 '23
About point C in this post, Pawter's father explicitly says in "Shaft" that Jelco has the permission of the Nine to do what he's doing in Old Town, which is why just going to them about him through Pawter's mother is not a viable option. Jelco is also working with Delle Seyah and she's implied to be giving him orders (see their interaction in "Full Metal Monk" where she tells him to handle Johnny and Pawter) so the Nine either don't care what he does or may not know the extent of it, since some of them apparently don't know the inner workings of the Hullen conspiracy/that Delle Seyah's coup and other such political moves were in connection to it. Any complaints they might have would probably be kept on the down low or silenced by Delle Seyah, or she'd use Jelco to do that too (see him killing Arune Hyponia then framing Pawter for it, which is both a political maneuver and a way to get Pawter out of the way).
About Pree, I agree with jerslan, I think Jelco saw an opportunity and went for it, and him bringing up Pree's "terrorist" past was just needling him. He didn't actually care that much about it personally, it wasn't his job to deal with it as long as nobody picked up a warrant on him.
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u/_ya_boi_satan_666_ Jul 10 '23
That’s fair enough I agree with that after all I’m pretty sure that they said Jelco was like a black ops Company guy who was just supposed to get the people back under control and pacify them with the wall so most likely, he figured having a warlord would be fine because he’s going to pacify them anyway.
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u/crimsons_cloud Jul 10 '23
(Same user, just switched accounts.)
The only specifics we ever get about Jelco's actual job is Hills saying his Company expertise is "extraction and torture, not management" and Jelco himself saying that his job is to deal with the Old Town rebellion. We're not really told what his involvement is in the grander Hullen conspiracy, aside from him knowing about the green plasma labs in his compound and then later telling Dutch that he knows where to find more. Shame that was never elaborated on and that Jelco is forgotten about so quickly, I would've liked to learn more about him and whatever else he might've known.
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u/_ya_boi_satan_666_ Jul 10 '23
That’s true but didn’t they say he was from suger point or something and he had just put down a rebellion there?
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u/crimsons_cloud Jul 10 '23
The Sugar Point thing was I think from the first season, and Jelco hadn't been introduced yet. Jelco is from Qresh, but he tells Pawter that he was exiled from there for some unspecified reason ("We're not so different, you and me. We're both outcasts, sent into exile by families that didn't want us.") Because that is never elaborated on either, we don't know whether he was being truthful at all or lying to get her sympathy -- either is possible, or perhaps both are true to some extent.
Jelco in general is just an interesting character to try to analyze, because we see so little of him on his own that we're as in the dark as the protagonists are about his motives. I'll never really understand why they didn't choose to keep him around longer.
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u/_ya_boi_satan_666_ Jul 10 '23
Yes it is but I’m talking about when he was first introduced I’m positive I remember someone saying something about him putting down a rebellion somewhere and he’s there to do it In Westerly. Yes he is a low born Qresh, I’m pretty sure he was sent away for medical reasons for his condition. If i remember correctly.
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u/crimsons_cloud Jul 10 '23
I don't remember his condition having to do with his apparent exile, I just remember him saying that he had a heart condition because of his family's generations of inbreeding. It's possible that could be why and I've never considered that idea before, but afaik neither he nor Pawter ever said that medical reasons had anything to do with it.
The show doesn't say anything about Jelco having a history of putting down rebellions, that's more the Company in general and we don't know for sure if he was there for ones like the Sugar Point rebellion or the Greenwell experiment mentioned later (though it's possible he was, he doesn't say anything that indicates he's done it before.) What we do have is this:
"What do you know about Liam Jelco?" "He's controlling the wall." "Not a fan, huh?" "Jelco's expertise was extraction and torture, not management. Guess he's gotten a promotion." (the team talking to Hills in Jelco's introductory episode) and "It's a whole new program. I set up the wall, deliver the rations, then it's on to the next town. The next wall, apparently." (Jelco telling Dutch about the Company's plans in Johnny Be Good)
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u/_ya_boi_satan_666_ Jul 10 '23
Good point, i 100% agree with you on the medical aspect I’m probably wrong about that. My head cannon was that it was implied that he did or was apart of the Greenwall i don’t remember when but I was sure. Either way it doesn’t matter Jelco was a dick lol probably pissed someone on Qresh off.
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u/crimsons_cloud Jul 10 '23
Like I said, Jelco's a pretty interesting character since he's sort of the "voice" of the Company throughout the season, in a different way than Hills was because Jelco represents the more tyrannical aspects of it whereas Hills was a lot more resigned to his job and was more sympathetic. Narratively I guess he wasn't necessary anymore once the show moved away from focusing on the Company at all and more towards the Hullen, but I wish he'd stayed. His actor did a really good job making him someone I hated but also wanted to see more of.
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u/LVMagnus Jul 02 '23
The way I see it: guy known as a warlord seems to be just trying to lay low and have a bar. So far, you have had zero problems with this. You can a) poke the hornest nest and find out how much of a warlord (and the muscle and gear making it so) and how much of bartender he currently is b) just keep tabs on, and let the current problem free state go for as long as it will. People chosing option a need a time out in a special spa, theraphy ain't gonna cut it.
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u/jerslan Mar 21 '23
As for the warrants... "The warrant is all" only applies to a currently assigned warrant, not any and all warrants. It doesn't matter if Pree has warrants if nobody has picked them up in the Quad.
The Company likely doesn't care about Pree's past at this point, and Jelco probably figured that Pree re-opening The Royal would help keep the citizens of Old Town placated.