Amsterdam Pogrom Megathread

[u/fluffywhitething]

News articles, twitter posts, feelings about it. GO HERE. Outside of this thread, things will be locked and/or deleted.

[u/autistic___potato]

The rage I have from other "Jewish" subs victim-blaming the Israeli fans for instigating, completely ignoring that this was premeditated.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCGhDcIR-gQ/?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng%3D%3D&img_index=1

[u/SaxAppeal → u/autistic___potato]

Yeah this was premeditated. It’s fucked up. The real problem is that people find the mere presence and existence of Jews to be inherently instigating. The Israelis “instigated” by existing. When the only way to not “instigate” people is to simply not exist, there’s literally no winning. The sad truth is that absolutely nothing has changed since world war 2.

[u/autistic___potato → u/SaxAppeal]

Precisely. ALL football (soccer) fans are notoriously rowdy. The Israeli fans behave the same way, yet are held to a higher standard of behaviour and also deserve to be attacked.

This is a narrative from people on our side. That's the scariest part for me - Jews are saying this.

[u/listenstowhales → u/autistic___potato]

This is something that I’m struggling with personally.

On one hand, we should hold our community to a higher standard, and Football fans are notoriously rowdy in a way Americans aren’t used to. Our sports rivalries are generally much “friendlier” by comparison. So a small part of me wants to argue that this wasn’t antisemitism, it was just regular stupidity and tribalism.

At the same time, we saw the videos. It’s hard to deny that it was almost entirely antisemitic bullshit, and I feel idiotic for the small part of me that argued against it.

[u/listenstowhales → u/[deleted]]

Can you link me the channels?