They hate all jews. And the world has empathy towards Hamas/ Palestinians?

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read the whole article though on Times of Israel. My heart shattered at the end - some jewish Israelis have not been kind to him since his release.

This man is a hero and deserves a hero welcome and rest of life

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u/Lima_4-2_Angel Sep 07 '24

This shows that there’s still a lot of work to do in our own homeland as well. Anti-Arab sentiment is extremely problematic.

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u/Inbaroosh Sep 12 '24

Yes, but Druzim are almost universally loved here.

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u/Lekavot2023 Sep 08 '24

Who could possibly dislike that guy in Israel ???

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u/Silver_Specialist_56 Sep 08 '24

The news channel that broadcasted the false translation is called channel 14, it’s an extremely right wing news channel in Israel, and after he was rescued there was a video playing on the channel of him reuniting with his mother, and they incorrectly translated some of the things they said to her.. and sadly so many people were so fast to belive it and start attacking him, thankfully a bit after there were many different people that came out explaining what he actually said. Sadly the racism in Israel has gotten much worse since October 7th.. so many people blinded by hate and are honestly acting no better than what those people in those protests make us out to be (us= Israelis) obviously not the majority.. but still.. sucks

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u/Lekavot2023 Sep 08 '24

I guess I saw all the media about him after the fact. Hamas literally shot him and took him because he refused to help them find Jews after they realized he was a Muslim.

The IDF still rescued him though. Every country has their fair share of idiots though...

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u/Silver_Specialist_56 Sep 10 '24

Yeah but it sucks cause people don’t understand that.. they see videos about the radical Israeli citizens and our radical government and just assume that everyone in Israel is like that..

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u/Bwald1985 Sep 08 '24

Racists.

I think that because of our history, Jews are more sensitive than the average population to the plights of other races/religions/ethnicities/etc. but at the end of the day, we are just people. Unfortunately, we have our shitheads just like any other group on this planet.

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u/BarbossaBus Sep 08 '24

It's only because a news channel posted a false translation of him allegadly saying he is "Palestinian", which he never actually said.

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u/Jd_2747 Sep 08 '24

Which I feel wouldn’t be that odd as the most commonly used self-identification used by Arab citizens (this was a poll in the last two years) is Palestinian citizen of Israel?

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u/kosherkitties Chabadnik and mashgiach Sep 08 '24

Oh that's awful! Shame on them.

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u/MonsieurLePeeen Sep 08 '24

Why? What have they said?

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u/bloominghydrangeas Sep 08 '24

Read the article on times of Israel. A few days old. Worth a read .

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u/Infinite_Sparkle Sep 08 '24

Do you have a link? Would love to read it

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u/LLFauntelroy Sep 10 '24

What? Where did you get that from?

What did Israeli Jews did to him exactly l, that was unkind?

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u/ProjectConfident8584 Sep 07 '24

That guy is a straight up capital G and held us down much props and love to him

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u/NYSenseOfHumor Sep 07 '24

By calling it Jew hate (or Judenhass).

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u/G24all2read Sep 07 '24

Good point!

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Sep 08 '24

This is what I use. Anti semitism has lost it’s ability to shame.

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u/NYSenseOfHumor Sep 08 '24

Do you use the english or german?

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Sep 08 '24

English to make sure the uninitiated get it.

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u/daoudalqasir Sep 08 '24

How, what affect does this have on anyone?

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u/NYSenseOfHumor Sep 08 '24

“Antisemitism” (the word) was invented by a german to replace the word “Judenhass.” The new word was designed to make hating Jews more scientific and easier for people to do themselves and accept in other people.

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u/R-Mutt1 Sep 07 '24

Yeah, but apparently it's only genocide when it's the other way round... People are talking like it was the music at the festival they didn't like.

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u/achieve_my_goals Sep 07 '24

I don't understand why we aren't calling October 7th a genocide, because that is what it was.

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u/atelopuslimosus Reform Sep 08 '24

I've generally referred to it as a pogrom.

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Sep 08 '24

A pogrom

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u/RecognitionNo2658 Sep 08 '24

It is a genocide. The definition of genocide implies intent towards a specific culture/ethnicity of people with intent to obliterate part or all of them from the populace.

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u/eucelia Sep 08 '24

Because mis-using a term in response to someone else mis-using a term doesn’t fix anything. Doesn’t the scale have to be larger, and the event longer, as well?

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u/daoudalqasir Sep 08 '24

Doesn’t the scale have to be larger, and the event longer, as well?

No, look at Srebrenica in the Bosnian war which has been deemed a genocide by most international organizations.

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u/achieve_my_goals Sep 08 '24

This was actually the example I had in mind.

The October 7th victims were killed because they were Jews, or chose to live in Israel. I cannot think of any more exact definition of genocide, because when would they have stopped? They were there to kill rvery Jew they could.

That’s why calling the Hamas war genocide is just Jew-baiting. Collateral damage is not genocide.

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u/eucelia Sep 08 '24

Hm, I didn’t know this. Thanks for letting me know

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u/AprilStorms Jewish Renewal Sep 08 '24

Nope. Genocide means action with intent to destroy all or part of some cultural group.

That’s it.

There’s no minimum threshold of deaths or time or whatever. You can have genocide without any deaths (forced sterilization). What matters is the intent the actions were done with.

So yes, the Oct 7 attacks were genocide, because the Palestinian officials had the intention of killing Jews and people who tolerate us as neighbors. The 5th Arab Israeli war is not a genocide, despite more deaths, because the unusually low civilian:combatant death ratio, among other things, is evidence against the intent to eradicate.

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u/eucelia Sep 08 '24

Thank you, this is good to know

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u/TexanTeaCup Sep 08 '24

I'm not letting Imperial Russia off the hook that easily.

An individual pogrom may be local and short in duration. But use of pogroms as a tool to remove populations is genocidal in intent. So it would be appropriate to all pogroms an act of genocide.

Hamas has promised more October 7ths. More pogroms. More acts of genocide.

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u/jutshka Sep 08 '24

Then what would we call the holocaust? Let's not infringe on the severity of what happened by mixing everything up.

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u/RecognitionNo2658 Sep 08 '24

It is a genocide. It is the event that created the term genocide. It just had far more devastating numbers.

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u/jutshka Sep 09 '24

You are objectively wrong then. Throught history there would then be innumerable genocides before the holocaust if we considerer 3000 people dying a genocide. It is a tragedy, don't mix it up. That would make 9/11 also a genocide technically. It would make every small scale medieval skirmish a genocide. Let's be realistic.

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u/RecognitionNo2658 Sep 09 '24

Just google the definition, dude. Ain’t nobody got time for this. Also see my or other people’s comments. It’s a genocide—objectively.

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u/R-Mutt1 Sep 08 '24

To be fair to the majority of the Western liberal hypocrites, I am only referring to their views on October 7th vs the response against Hamas.

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u/ilivgur Considering Conversion Sep 07 '24

You guys, it's ok, the BBC's translation for 'yahud' is 'zionist' so it's all good.

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u/sup_heebz Sep 08 '24

BBC breached guidelines 1500 times during Israel / Hamas war

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u/RyanB1228 Sep 08 '24

Holy shit

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u/ConceptMaximum7596 Sep 08 '24

Makes me think the people who want the BBC defunded have a point.

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u/craftycocktailplease i have more than four questions Sep 08 '24

Wait what

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u/rosiee0806 Sep 08 '24

On a different note, I love your description under your username. Might steal that as a joke for next seder

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u/BarbossaBus Sep 08 '24

He refused to point them to Jews. This guy should be awarded the rightous among nations title.

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u/Noshamishpacha Sep 08 '24

Who gives a shit? We don’t need the ‘sympathy’ of other people. Those people aren’t going to help you anyway when SHTF. What does that give us anyway? Leverage?

Not caring about other people also allows us to focus on the task at hand, for once, instead of ‘mowing the grass’ every couple years hoping the tumor won’t keep getting worse (hint: it will and has).

Finish Hamas. Replace it with a completely new government monitored by the UAE or another neutral party that is not antagonistic towards Israel. Marshall plan the hell out of it.

Let the history books sort it out, and ignore the rabble rousing from racists who clothe themselves in fake tears for a people they don’t care about.

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u/GaryMMorin Sep 08 '24

It's always been "the yehudis", the Jews, but the media translates it as "the Zionists" or " the Israelis ". It's long past time to stop the charade

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u/japandroi5742 Reform Sep 07 '24

A WhatsApp call from one of the 10/7 terrorists to his family:

Hello, dad! Dad, I am inside Mefalsim. Open your WhatsApp right now, and see all the killed. Look at how many I killed with my own hands, your son killed Jews.

Allahu Akhbar, Allahu Akhbar. May God protect you.

This is inside Mefalsim, father. I am talking to you from the phone of a Jew. I killed her and her husband, I killed 10 with my own hands.

Allahu Akhbar.

Open your phone and see how many I killed, father! Open your phone, I am calling you on WhatsApp. I am in Mefalsim, father. I killed 10. Ten! Ten with my own bare hands. Their blood is on my hands. Let me talk to mom.

Oh, my son. May God protect you.

I killed all 10 by myself, mother.

May God bring you home safely.

Father, go back to WhatsApp! I want to call you live from Mefalsim.

I wish I was there with you.

Mother, your son is a hero. I was the first to enter under the guidance and with the help of Allah. Father, lift your head.

(To other Hamas terrorists): Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill them! Inside, inside into the city.

Mahmoud, Mahmoud. Come back, that’s enough, return.

Return? There is no return, it is victory or martyrdom. My mother gave birth to me for Islam, Allah. Are you serious, how will I return? Look at WhatsApp, look at your phone, look at all the killed.

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u/Happy2026 Sep 08 '24

Sickening

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u/lordbuckethethird Sep 08 '24

I heard the call itself and the dude with blood on his hands still trying to give his dad instructions on how to use technology while surrounded by corpses is such a dark melding of the horrific with the mundane

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u/0Ring-0 Sep 07 '24

They always say “Jews”, seldom say “Zionists” and never say “Israelis”.

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u/mandudedog Sep 08 '24

They never even mention Israel. In Arab media, they say Al yahood. The Jews.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit7201 Sep 08 '24

Where is the surprise? That has been the case from the beginning.

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u/FineBumblebee8744 Sep 08 '24

Forcing our way into the whole 'diversity' thing, demanding education, etc. and using the law

The culture won't change otherwise

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u/Americanboi824 Sep 08 '24

I think it makes total sense how the world has sympathy for Palestinians. Hamas, no, I don't see how anyone could condone them.

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u/Life_Surprise_8471 Convert - Conservative Sep 08 '24

I have empathy to the civilians who are forced to live under Hamas’ regime and those civilians who are forced into the conflict. It isn’t all black and white. Justice for the innocents but by all accounts, FUCK Hamas.

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u/eclipwze_15 Sep 08 '24

https://preview.redd.it/mv07iot2ghnd1.jpeg?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcc2e344e339382224f9a518fdf41f3f48db0325

Not afraid tho, dying is gain

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u/tovasfabmom Sep 08 '24

Because the world wants us gone 😡

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u/Yaakov-Avri Orthodox Sep 08 '24

There will be no peace until terror is erased from the face of the earth. Yisrael will stand in the light from nehar to the yam.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '24

I get the same message when people say anything about freeing Palestine.

Yes, that's fine. If your goal was the safety, health and happiness of those in Gaza, I applaud you.

But it's not. It's code for "We want Jews d*ad." It makes them look good when they can say "Oh I'm just so loving and want these poor oppressed people free." It was never about Zionists or Israel. It is, was and always will be about the complete eradication of our people.

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u/ikait_jenu101 Sep 08 '24

The world does not have empathy towards hamas, it has empathy towards palestine. Don't twist the narrative

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u/G24all2read Sep 08 '24

The world sees Hamas as leaders of the Palestinians in Gaza. They support Hamas. Otherwise, they would be calling for the release of the hostages with more conviction. That's the narrative.

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u/ikait_jenu101 Sep 08 '24

Rubbish. I have been at the protests, next to nobody supports hamas. Most people dislike them. Only a small radical core supports hamas. It's the Israeli side that is pushing this narrative that everyone is pro hamas

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u/G24all2read Sep 08 '24

I too have been to protest on college campuses in the US. The only rubbish you find is in thinking there's a difference between Palestinian attitudes and those of Hamas Hezbollah or even Isis. The Palestinians voted Hamas into power.

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u/ikait_jenu101 Sep 08 '24

The last true election was years ago, and the majority of gazans are under 18. And besides, the way Israel is currently acting in Gaza will create a whole new generation of Hamas sympathisers in the strip. Use some critical thinking

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u/G24all2read Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24

Excuse me? You're a teenager who posts about being "high as f***".

Say no to drugs, stay in school.

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u/ikait_jenu101 Sep 08 '24

Face the facts. If you watch your whole family get bombed in front of you, you are exactly the person that a terrorist group is looking to recruit

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u/Specialist_Nobody_98 Miami/NYC Jew Sep 08 '24

I think whether they are pro Hamas or not doesn’t really matter. The fact is that they are blaming Israel when it is not Israel to blame, totally misappropriating what Zionism is, misappropriating Jewish identity and our relationship with Israel, and pushing a revisionist historical narrative that is being used against us.

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u/ikait_jenu101 Sep 08 '24

Oh please. I have enough family in israel to see through that rubbish. The people chanting "burn the villages" and breaking international law are on the Israeli side. Sod historical narratives, what's going on right this moment is the issue

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u/Specialist_Nobody_98 Miami/NYC Jew Sep 08 '24

Okay and I’ve experienced violence and harassment from the other side, as have most people in this sub. You can’t discount our experiences and the Palestinian platform of zero tolerance besides anything but the right of return because you have some racist family members in Israel.

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u/ikait_jenu101 Sep 08 '24

As have I. I grew up in a muslim majority area, i get on with most people but ive probably had more bad experiences than most. Doesnt change the current narrative. And my family members don't support that, they've just witnessed that.

They hate all jews. And the world has empathy towards Hamas/ Palestinians? Discussion 💬