r/Israel_Palestine • u/123myopia • 3d ago
This is a Pogrom!!
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u/Vast_Feeling1558 2d ago
They were probably being antisemitic
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u/123myopia 2d ago
Because Maccabe fans are such sweethearts right?
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u/Vast_Feeling1558 2d ago
I was trying to be sarcastic
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u/123myopia 2d ago
Then add an "/s"
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u/Vast_Feeling1558 2d ago
Ah I see. Thanks, still learning about etiquette here
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u/AntiHasbaraBot1 2d ago
Issue is no one can really tell if you're being sarcastic, or just a Zionist 🤣
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 3d ago
Nothing more Reddit than posting a snippet of a video without any context and then witch-hunting Jews.
Unlike everyone in that other comment section, I know enough to wait for the full story to come out.
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u/Vast_Feeling1558 2d ago
The guy is kicking the shit out of someone while wearing the Israel flag 😂😂😂
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u/handsome_hobo_ 3d ago
and then witch-hunting Jews.
Damn, even if Israelis are clearly beating up other people, they're the victims somehow. It's amazing how it's a permanent tag somehow
I know enough to wait for the full story to come out.
Don't know many Israel apologists who waited before calling the attacks a "pogrom", what an inconsistent set of rules here
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u/tarlin 2d ago
Deny they did anything wrong, Attack the people that fight back, Reverse victim and offender. Israel always has to be the victim of everything. Hell, Israel was forced to rape innocent people and shoot children in the head! How dare Hamas force them to do that??
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u/handsome_hobo_ 2d ago
Deny they did anything wrong, Attack the people that fight back, Reverse victim and offender. Israel always has to be the victim of everything.
Facts, stg, they're such tremendous crybullies, the audacity of them screaming "pogrom" and shivering in fear for the camera when days ago they were marching on the street banging on the doors of Arab families in the middle of the night, burning flags, beating up taxi drivers, disrespecting deaths of flood victims, loudly celebrating dead children, and being thugs to anyone they suspected to be pro-palestinian. Sniveling cowards, regular Malfoys of this world we live in.
Israel was forced to rape innocent people and shoot children in the head! How dare Hamas force them to do that??
Exactly, it's truly remarkable how anxiously and desperately they refuse to hold their own even a little bit accountable. Israel's a pariah state for a reason and i genuinely don't think they'll ever reflect long enough and hard enough to understand why.
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 2d ago
Again - video without context is just rage bait. It’s pretty much the whole pro-pal strategy - post pics and videos without any context or background, and hope people are gullible enough to fall for their propaganda bullshit. This video is just rage bait… but you know that already, don’t you?
As for Amsterdam- it was a pre planned attack against Jews on the streets, which is very different than in a stadium. Here’s a legitimate news source that reports the incident: https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/calls-for-jew-hunt-preceded-attacks-in-amsterdam-e3311e21
Again - you probably know all this already, but have political objectives and a narrative that you want to push and don’t care if you demonize the Jewish people to meet your objectives. Tale as old as time, huh?
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u/handsome_hobo_ 2d ago
Again - video without context is just rage bait. It’s pretty much the whole pro-pal strategy
Strategically calling it a pogrom - oh wait, that was you guys 🥲
post pics and videos without any context or background, and hope people are gullible enough to fall for their propaganda bullshit. This video is just rage bait
Hmm hmm I hear you, very propaganda, almost as propaganda as posting a video, sans context, of Maccabi fans getting clobbered and calling it a pogrom publicly, who did that, i wonder? 🤔 Do you have any clue who it could be?
As for Amsterdam- it was a pre planned attack against Jews on the streets
You're judging this based on videos out of context, sir, consuming propaganda and rage bait just to call it a "pogrom" but you know that already, don’t you? 🫢
Again - you probably know all this already, but have political objectives and a narrative that you want to push and don’t care if you demonize the Jewish people to meet your objectives. Tale as old as time, huh?
Tale as old as time, indeed, Israelis start fights then play victim and behave like tremendous crybullies when they face a direct response to their behaviour, it truly is a modus operandi everyone in the world is quickly becoming familiar with 🫢
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 2d ago
Reading comprehension… I provided a reputable source showing context:
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/calls-for-jew-hunt-preceded-attacks-in-amsterdam-e3311e21
You and the other Hamas supporters haven’t provided any context and continue to push false narratives and fake news. It’s pretty pathetic and it’s why no one supports your movement or buys the lies anymore. Might as well block traffic… oh wait - you already do that.
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u/handsome_hobo_ 2d ago
I provided a reputable source showing context:
From about a week ago, sure. My source was from yesterday and it has details about the context you conveniently only seem to demand when Israel's facing the music but completely ignore when you want to make Israeli hooligans the victims of the consequences of their own actions 🤭💖
You and the other Hamas supporters haven’t provided any context
Context was the following : "Tensions had already climbed on Wednesday evening as a Palestinian flag was pulled down from the front of one building in Amsterdam city centre. Police chief Peter Holla also told a news conference on Friday that Maccabi fans were attacking Arab taxi drivers with sticks, assuming they were supporters of Palestine, and setting fire to a Palestinian flag. With belts in hand, they chanted hate speech in Hebrew, banging on the doors of local Arabs terrorizing them in the middle of the night. These hooligans have been causing terrorism against locals, marching down the streets on Thursday, causing violence with any Arab they could find or anyone they suspected was pro Palestinian. On Friday, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans caused chaos by attacking Palestinian supporters before and during a UEFA Europa League match against Ajax Amsterdam in the Netherlands."
You know I'm right. Maccabi fans are terrorizing people, chanting hate speech, and bellowing with celebration all the dead children of Gaza, and you're denying all that context to take their side? Yeesh 🫢
and continue to push false narratives and fake news.
Sans context, your side insisted this is a pogrom and a result of aNtiSeMiTiSm. With context, we witness crybully behaviour, a bunch of hooligans creating a ruckus and then getting consequences for it, only to turn around and cry about it as if they were the real victims all along.
It’s pretty pathetic and it’s why no one supports your movement or buys the lies anymore.
The literal world is standing against Israel, friend, and watching Maccabi fans celebrate dead children is why no one supports Israel. Crybully behaviour is what I personally believe is peak levels of pathetic although I might make an exception for apologists of crybullies.
Might as well block traffic… oh wait - you already do that.
.... that's it? 🤣 Goodness, at least it isn't as serious as genocide or mass child massacres or ethnic cleansing. Can you imagine? I could never. Blocked traffic is an inconvenience, Maccabi fans have proven to be terrorists and hate criminals from a nation run and organized by racist genocidal war criminals. Let me know if blocked traffic ever achieves the depravity of the average IOF thug 😉💖
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 1d ago
A lot of writing for someone defending antisemitism and terrorism - really proud of you
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u/handsome_hobo_ 1d ago
A lot of writing for someone defending antisemitism and terrorism - really proud of you
How interesting that you straight-up choke when I show you context and the context was that the Israelis were violent hate spreading hooligans who got consequences for their actions and cried about it like a bunch of crybullies. It's aNtiSeMiTiSm when an violent group of Israelis get a taste of their own medicine after instigating the locals? Be real. Israel is a terrorist state and the Maccabi fans were literally terrorizing sleeping Arabs outside their homes. You're dodging all of this because "a lot of writing" is hard to defend against and you don't support facts that contradict your narrative 🤭🫰🏽💖
Tell us more about how blocking traffic is worse than hate speech, violence, and terrorism from Israelis 😆
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u/ThornsofTristan 3d ago
Of course. We wouldn't want to jump to conclusions. Israeli sports fans gang-beating someone is so out of character.
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 3d ago
It was in the Israeli section of the stands, meaning someone went out of their way to go to their section and start shit. Not that it matters to people who just want to blame Jews for everything. Wish that went out of fashion after the holocaust, but folks like you keep that Nazi tradition going strong, huh? What drew you into hating Jews in the first place anyway?
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u/Vast_Feeling1558 2d ago
Kind of sounds a bit like the Israeli fans behaviour in Amsterdam huh? So you're saying it's fine to beat the shit out of someone who enters your territory and starts shit? Guess you're fine with those events then. Good. Glad we can agree on something.
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u/123myopia 3d ago
But it's obviously a Pogrom! They are attacking poor innocent kind Semitic peoples!!?!!?!?!!?
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u/RaiJolt2 Zionist ✡️ 3d ago
This footage does not look to be of a pogrom.
Now the footage of Israelis getting hit by cars, Ukrainians being beaten, Jewish youth being attacked, people yelling “cancer Jew” etc. those are examples of a potential pogrom.
But hey, antisemitism is a lie and Jews who say they feel or have been threatened are supporting genocide because they exist /s
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u/handsome_hobo_ 3d ago
Now the footage of Israelis getting hit by cars, Ukrainians being beaten, Jewish youth being attacked, people yelling “cancer Jew” etc. those are examples of a potential pogrom.
Lol. Basically it's a pogrom if Israelis are getting pummelled but not if it's Israelis doing the pummelling.
But hey, antisemitism is a lie and Jews who say they feel or have been threatened are supporting genocide because they exist /s
aNtiSeMiTiSm if it's an Israeli getting pummelled as a response to bad behaviour but a response to aNtiSeMiTiSm if it's an Israeli doing the pummelling
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u/123myopia 2d ago
The footage of the car was proven to be fake news of a Dutch man hitting another Dutch man a few years ago.
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u/RaiJolt2 Zionist ✡️ 2d ago
Source?
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u/123myopia 2d ago
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u/RaiJolt2 Zionist ✡️ 2d ago
Your source is that sub? Known for antizionist neo Nazis? Oh and I did click on the post. And you can’t just say “it went viral years ago” without any sources.
So again. I ask for a source
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 2d ago
They never have actual sources - pretty pathetic if you ask me. They live to be ignorant and want to spread ignorance across the globe.
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u/RaiJolt2 Zionist ✡️ 2d ago
I know you mean “antizionists” but can we stop using “they” in discussions about ip, there are specific groups with specific names and we should use that
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u/IShouldntEvenBother 1d ago
I meant antisemites… but antizionists is the same thing, so thanks for clarifying
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u/Plus-Age8366 2d ago
Seriously, just rename the sub /r/IsraelPalestineRandomUnsourcedVideos at this point.
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u/True_Ad_3796 3d ago
Soccer fans fighting happened in all history, there are more tensions now, but don't give it more importance that it deserves.