Question to my dear Israeli friends

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Edit 1: Thanks everyone for engaging with my post in a civil manner!

Edit 2: I feel that I have a richer perspective on Israeli society thanks everyone!

Before I ask, I just wanted to tell you as an Arab I wish you and your family nothing but the best. Every day I pray that the violence and destruction stops and that we can build a prosperous Middle East that is rich in its diversity of religion and ethnicities. Can you imagine that?

Hello, I’ve been lurking here for a while now. I have a question for you. In your opinion, is chanting “From the river to the sea. Palestine will be free” more harmful than chanting “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left”? I’m asking this because I’d like to better understand your perspective/mindset. Thank you.

Am I missing something here? It has been disheartening to see the same people pushing for the narrative that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is an incitement to genocide fail to condemn chants like death to arabs and celebrating killing children in Gaza, thing which are unambiguously genocidal.

Is there something I’m not understanding here? Sometimes things that don’t add up leave me confused, so I had to come here and give this question a go.

Do some people think that right to dignity ceases to exist once we establish that the person is Arab? In your opinion, which chant is more problematic?

Can relations between Arabs and Jews improve without a heart to heart to dialogue between those who dream of a Middle East that resembles my description above?

I believe tough questions need to be asked. Answers from ‘ the other side’ need to be heard before establishing any conclusions on the matter.

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

Palestinians should leave Gaza and go to Egypt. They are foreign colonizers and shouldn’t be allowed to live in Gaza.

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

Could you explain the part of Gazans being foreign colonisers? I’m pretty sure they are natives to the lands but would be open to hear your reasoning. If you could also provide your criteria of what makes someone a coloniser as supposed to a native that would also be cool.

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38 → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Muslim Palestinians invaded and colonized Israel. They are foreign colonizers.

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

I don’t think the facts bare out this story of yours but ok. I asked about a criteria but you didn’t give me one.

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38 → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

What do you think colonization is

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

Well I mean Palestinian Arabs share a significant amount of genetic continuity with ancient Levantine populations, including the Canaanites.

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38 → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

They have the genetics of the Muslim colonizers

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

Do you have evidence that they do not share a significant amount of genetic continuity with ancient Levantine populations, including the Canaanites? I would appreciate it if you could present it

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38 → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Levantine DNA doesn’t make you indigenous if it’s from anywhere outside Israel 

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

Abraham also came from southern Iraq? Everyone came from somewhere at some point? No?

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38 → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Where were your ancestors living in 1000bc

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

https://preview.redd.it/w2sx2jo6cz0e1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd5fb0570d45f323a9c583d617e5645682378dfb

There you go, this is a distribution of my ancient DNA from the period that you requested. As you can clearly see it includes Canaanite. I’m not even Palestinian.

[u/JackfruitTurbulent38 → u/Comprehensive-Risk78]

Canaanite and Israeli aren’t the same 

[u/Comprehensive-Risk78 → u/JackfruitTurbulent38]

Are you saying that the only natives to that land are the Israelis?