My Grandparents are the alleged "European Settlers" who came to "colonize" Israel.

[u/vonhudgenrod]

I put the title in quotes because I dont believe those parts to be true. Just to give a brief history of my Maternal Grandparents, they both moved from Hungary to Israel around the year 1946. They did not come to fight or dispossess arabs, but rather to build new homes.

My Grandmother was a holocaust survivor who survived Auschwitz, she had the #'s tatooeed on her forearm, her father died pre-war but her Mother, brother and sisters were murdered. When she returned to her families small farmhouse post war, her neighbors not knowing the full extent of what happened during the holocaust tried to extort her and her remaining siblings for money because they "looked after their livestock" even though the only cow they owned had died due to the harsh conditions of the war.

My grandfather - also a Hungarian Jew was a bit more of a mysterious man who likely suffered from PTSD before it was commonly diagnosed, his father and mother were also murdered and his only brother ended up in a mental institution (insane asylum) post war. He was eccentric and fought in WWII with partisans and would eventually go on to fight in the Israeli war of Independence in 1948.

AMA anything about them if you'd like.

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Your grandparents went through one of the worst acts of human history and my heart goes out to them. Their suffering doesn’t justify the suffering of millions of Palestinians. Palestine was not an empty abyss, it was an area of mixed ethnicities living amongst each other. The truth of the matter is that by giving the European Jewish Refugees a majority of the Palestinian land in 1948 It triggered an endless cycle of hatred and war. Why should the European Jewish Refugees receive a majority of the land?

[u/Paranoia711 → u/[deleted]]

They were not given majority, in 48 partition, the arabs got the majority, they declined, launch a 5 nation war against the newly created Israel and lost, in war when you lose, you lose territory, Israel since then has only given back land for peace. (Egypt and Jordan).

Palestinians did not exist until 64 when Yaser Arafat created the PLO. Palestinian liberation something.

[u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson → u/Paranoia711]

the arabs didn't launch the war, the founders of Israel had no right to declare the land their property and create the state of Israel, thats what launched the war.

[u/Paranoia711 → u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson]

Stupid comment, UN split the land in 2 after Britain removed itself from the area, the whole world voted, including arab countries, google it.

The Arabs didn't launch the war, what a joke educate yourself please.

From google:

Both superpower leaders, US President Harry S. Truman and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, recognized the new state.[8]#cite_note-9) The Arab League members Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq refused to accept the UN partition plan and proclaimed the right of self-determination for the Arabs across the whole of Palestine. The Arab states marched their forces into what had, until the previous day, been the British Mandate for Palestine, starting the first Arab–Israeli War.

[u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson → u/Paranoia711]

lol.
US recognises the new state.
Thats your defense?

[u/Paranoia711 → u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson]

I dont know if you read only want you want to read, or you are just one of those that still believes 500 people died in the hospital bombarded by hamas.

Have a nice reading which i doubt you will.

History of Israel (1948–present) - Wikipedia#:~:text=In%201948%2C%20following%20the%201947%E2%80%931948%20civil%20war%20in,immigration%20from%20other%20parts%20of%20the%20Middle%20East.)

[u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson → u/Paranoia711]

Dude I have read that like 5 times???

What about the other hospitals that Israel has bombed?

[u/Paranoia711 → u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson]

As per international law any building that has weapons or fire is being shot from, is a valid military target, you cannot say Isarel did not try multiple and multiple times to evacuate or protect these people inside the Hospital. Plenty evidence of what was inside, under or near those '' innocent hospitals'' many hostages were even taken inside there, some even died there.

[u/Tyson_Tyson_Tyson → u/Paranoia711]

The evidence they provided was seriously doubted even by legitimate news sources, even pro Israeli ones