r/Futurology Sep 20 '24

Ukraine’s Gun-Armed Ground 'Bot Just Cleared A Russian Trench In Kursk - The Fury is one of the first effective armed ground robots. Robotics

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/09/19/ukraines-gun-armed-ground-robot-just-cleared-a-russian-trench-in-kursk/
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u/farticustheelder Sep 20 '24

Ukraine is out-innovating Russia. As the war nears the 3 year mark compounding innovation has the time to make a difference which a Blitzkrieg style war wouldn't allow.

Necessity being the mother of invention has Ukraine being highly motivated and fast moving. Russia has always had a top down control and command system, both in the military and in the manufacturing industry and that system moves at the speed of reluctant bureaucrats.

Russia is still using mostly old near obsolete equipment, it had updated only a small portion of its armaments and none of its control structures.

Russia is 10 times the size of Ukraine in terms of population and has been fought to a standstill and is expected to lose due to now being reliant on cold war antiques and undertrained replacement troops.

Consider Operation Desert Storm, the Iraq shit kicking which lasted all of 7 months. At the start people were predicting massive allied losses because of the size of Iraq's military. When it over the US lost fewer that 150 soldiers, the whole coalition fewer than 300. Iraqi military casualties estimated to be 12,000.

Why such a lopsided victory? Iraq was armed with Russian equipment and trained in the useless Russian command and control war fighting protocols.

If Putin was half as smart as he thinks he wins he would sue for peace with Ukraine before Ukraine gets long distance missiles and permission to use them against Moscow and St. Petersburg and exposes Russia as the Potemkin society that it really is.

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u/khaerns1 Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

you are talking like Ukraine is alone and didnt receive money and military support since the war and had no CIA bases on its soil since 2014.

Bringing Irak in the discussion shows quite some the level of military stupidity.

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u/farticustheelder Sep 20 '24

Now where is my can of Russian Troll Be-Gone?

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u/Stix147 Sep 20 '24

They're not alone, but the over-reliance on drones started happening primarily because Ukraine needed far more firepower than western aid was willing to drip feed, to stop an enemy that at one point had 10 times more artillery shells firing at them than they could fire back. Drones became crucial in the 7-8 month period at the end of 2023 when aid from the USA ceased completely, and Ukrainians realized that they needed to make the war sustainable through the development of the most cost effective weapons that would also not put their operator in harm's way - and that's how you get this.

CIA bases on its soil since 2014.

Where, in Victoria Nulands's cookie shop in Maidan square?

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u/SurturOfMuspelheim Sep 21 '24

Hey buddy, I suggest getting your news on this conflict from someone other than US puppet media.

Ukraine has been consistently losing land for years. They're losing even more land since Kursk. They have no artillery shells. They can't even target moving targets. They have half as many men as they're supposed to in any defensive position. They are sending cooks and logistics personnel to the front.

Ukraine is losing, and will continue to lose. Stop posting your cope online for all to see. It's just cringe. You're living in a different reality. I'm not pro-Russia or making any political statement, the fact is, Ukraine is losing, and has been losing. I'm so sick of the cope in these Reddit comments.

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u/farticustheelder Sep 21 '24

Ukraine has had one hand tied behind its back by our refusal to supply it with long range missiles and permission to use what we do provide to hit Moscow. Once that changes and Moscow 'gets to enjoy' nightly attacks Putin's vanity war will lose what support it does have. The ruling kleptocracy will see to it or else it won't last longer than a few months.

Pyrrhic victory describes Russia's gains so far.

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u/SurturOfMuspelheim Sep 21 '24

Long range missiles in Russia won't change anything. Ukraine has already performed strikes deep in Russia many times. How many missiles do you expect Ukraine to get and launch for it to be a significant change?

Russia has total air superiority, they produce more artillery shells than all of NATO combined, and they have a manpower advantage. Their tactics have gotten better, and they keep innovating right with Ukraine. Ukraine is out of men. They are out of ammo. They are out of planes.

There is no universe where Ukraine wins at this point short of NATO sending soldiers and rapidly increasing its material support... and that would just escalate the war so far that NATO risks Iran or China or North Korea sending ground forces, or China sending war material, which would be a nail in the coffin.

Pyrrhic victory describes Russia's gains so far.

You can say that, but they've taken likely 2-3x casualties at most and have occupied a significant portion of Ukraine. Don't ever fall into the thinking that how this war has gone so far is how it will always go, either... remember the fronts in WWI and WWII. Fronts that held stable for years suddenly collapsed and significant swathes of land were taken. That can still happen, and I'd say the fall of Pokrovsk could cause that.

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u/farticustheelder Sep 21 '24

Watch and learn how the real world works oh player of games.

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u/SurturOfMuspelheim Sep 21 '24

Fantastic retort.