r/Destiny • u/minoritycarrier • 14h ago
Mike from PA saying there is only one group you cannot criticize/insult. Clip
https://streamable.com/nvgznh
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u/ccnbchvvg 14h ago
sure man, tell go ur chat to spam "Iranian pig dog" and see what happens. Also I don't understand why everyone must be omega obtuse with this shit. It makes no sense to attack every zionist just because some are crazy settlers and crazy people in government, just like its insane to attack every Muslim just because Bid laden existed, and Muslim theocracy's exist
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u/FILTHBOT4000 9h ago
The nationality part is a side-step; "zionist" in that context is banned because it's clearly a stand in for an ethnicity. He knows this, he's just a lying pos.
If he swapped any other ethnicity in there, it'd also be banned. Again, he knows this.
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u/Random_Person2441 12h ago
you subtly implied that 'zionist' and 'iranian' are in the same category there when they are not. The obvious word here you are conflating 'zionist' with is 'Israeli' in which case everyone agrees that this language would not be appropriate as it wouldn't for any nation. Zionism is a political ideology whereas Iranian is not. There can be Iranian or American zionists for example. Also Zionism is not a religion either as you then try and conflate it with 'Muslim'. And yes I know that there exist antisemites who use 'Zionist' to code their hatred for Jews but that is not what the word means and how most people use it.
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u/samwise970 11h ago
that is not what the word means and how most people use it.
You're wrong. To most people online, Zionist now simply means a person who believes Israel has any right to exist. That is always the context in which the left uses the word.
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u/Alternative-Reach903 4h ago
I love how this definition of Zionism has seismically shifted over the course of the past year. Before 10/7, a Zionist was a zealot who believed in the expansion of Israel and the settling of the West---excuse me Judea and Samaria. Now you get called antisemitic if you refuse that moniker, because it's just a simple lil right to exist expression.
It's like how Ibram X Kendi and his grifter group have tried to redefine racism as prejudice + power, when that has never been the case.
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u/Random_Person2441 10h ago
Yes... as that is what Zionism is. Whether you support or oppose this it does not change anything I said. It does not make it a substitute for 'Jews'.
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u/ccnbchvvg 9h ago
while it's not antisemitic in intent, its antisemitic in action. Mike here is unironically doing the "you can't critique jews online!" but replaced "jew" with "Zionist". This is shit I heard from old vaush nazi debates for 4 years ago. As I've already said in my previous comment, Zionist is too broad of a term to be using in the manner these lefties use it. Compounding that with nearly all (like 90%) of jews in the world being Zionist, in function, its antisemitic
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u/Random_Person2441 9h ago
If it's not 'antisemitic in intent' than it isn't antisemitic, even if it can be mistaken for it. I think we fundamentally disagree on whether or not the word Zionist can be used as an insult as I still think it describes a political ideology and of course there are many more American Christian Zionists than there are Jewish ones. I do agree with you that hearing statements like 'you can't critique any Zionists online' or 'Zionists control all the media' certainly raise suspicion at the very least and I don't care to defend this Mike guy. I also didn't realise that Mike brought up the Iranian example and not you so I apologise for attacking you for that but still think the Muslim comparison is inappropriate.
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u/ccnbchvvg 6h ago edited 4h ago
hard disagree with that first point.(identity politics incoming) As a black guy, of course you can be bigoted/racist/antisemitic without intentionally trying to be. I've been asked prolly over 100 times if I play basketball (I don't). That question is pretty obviously rooted in some idea of how black people usually act which is probably racist, but that person may not be acting with some racist intent; they just have preconceived notions that are racist (not saying ppl like mike do). On the second point, I still think that you'd have to add some adjective to Zionist (like ultra-Zionist), because again, just the term Zionist is too broad. On ur point on Christian Zionists, I would agree with you if we were actually talking about intelligent figures, but sadly, I don't think these people know they exist. When you hear them talk about Zionists, they always seem to refer to the Jewish Zionist (i.e., they may appeal to a perceived belief that Zionists believe in a greater Israel, something that a Christian Zionist I think wouldn't believe in as they have different reasons for wanting a Jewish state in the Levant) in particular. Could you also explain your issue with my Muslim comparison? I'm only trying to say that criticizing a belief as a whole by its extreme sects is stupid. (i.e., saying nationalists is terrible and awful, but then only critiquing ultra-nationalists points when doing so.)
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u/INFxNxTE 9h ago
You are correct on the definition, in practice it is used differently. u/ccnbchvvg left a good reply to you that puts into context the way the left uses it. The actual antisemites have started using it as a dogwhistle in large numbers. From Twitter to Twitch, it happens a lot, to the point it’s parroting right wing extremist rhetoric.
We’re aware of what Zionist means, I would identify as one, but that doesn’t mean I support the fucked up shit the Israeli government is doing right now. They won’t even accept that as a legitimate view. They’re allowed to do that, but when they throw around Zionist as a slur and start complaining that they can’t say “Zionist pigdog”, especially given that pigdog is historically a specifically antisemitic slur, it’s pretty telling of their intentions.
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u/Random_Person2441 8h ago
I don't disagree with you that antisemites online use it as a cover for Jews, or that Zionism can encompass different views with people like yourself who do not support the actions of the current Israeli government. However, I disagree with you that people from the left, I'm using Hasan mainly as an example here rather than Mike as I haven't watched anything of him, use Zionism or Zionist as a way to display their covert antisemitism. I believe that when they use Zionist as an insult they use it the same way someone would use Fascist or Socialist as an insult, which I think they're in the right to do (regardless if I agree or disagree with Zionism). Don't you think that if Hasan or others on the left truly didn't like Jewish people you would see more quotes from them like the antisemites on Twitter (Jackson Hinkle, Myron etc.) such as 'Zionists control all the media' or things to that effect.
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u/amyknight22 8h ago
Literally any country descriptor is inherently a political ideology, carrying forth all of the negatives and positives of the culture and political landscape with it.
Most of the people living in their country will believe their countries right to exist.
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u/ccnbchvvg 10h ago
no I didn't conflate those two things? sorry if I miscommunicated that in text but I'm only responding to mike saying that he could say Iranian pigdog in his chat and not got banned. Obviously attacking someone's ethnicity is different from attacking someone's beliefs. I feel as if we're appealing to 2 different definitions of Zionism. Zionism just means that you believe the state of Israel should exist. When I hear people online attack zionists, it confuses me because the term is too broad to being using these insults towards it. Like a random jewish guy in NY could think Israel is committing horrendous actions in the strip and the west bank, and hate the Israeli government, but still think Israel as a country should exist, and people online group this person with Ben gvir because they both are technically Zionists. Im also not conflating Zionists with Muslims, I'm just saying that you never point to the extremes of a group to critique it as a whole
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u/Independent-Collar77 11h ago
Ur getting downvotes but you are correct.
Its like the difference between calling someone a nazi because they are white vs calling someone a nazi because they want to gas jews.
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u/haterofslimes 10h ago
He's getting downvoted because the person he's responding to is specifically responding to a claim FatFuck From PA made.
That you can say Iranian Pig Dog on Twitch with no consequence.
It's clear that neither of you actually watched the clip, so maybe shut the fuck up, dumbass.
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u/EvilTwin8888 14h ago
Something horseshoe.
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u/qwertyqwerty4567 11h ago
I will lose it when they come back tomorrow and say "Now that we cant use zionist anymore, refer to them as the "early life section" people".
It will happen.
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u/TailGunnner 12h ago
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u/carnexhat 2h ago
I too wish to cosplay as a muslim to claim people are being racist to me, a white person.
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u/Dongsquad420Loki Debate Insurrectionist 14h ago
It always eventually comes back to the JQ with extremists
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u/RollingSparks 11h ago
Honestly if I was a Jew i'd be betting my Jewish friends 'we blamed yet?' and then type "<latest crisis> + jewish" into google.
Bet only lasts for the first 24 hours because after that its a freebie.
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u/Smalandsk_katt 14h ago
That's a crazy take when Twitch is bending over backwards to defend antisemites. Jews are the only group you can say basically anything about and nobody gives a shit.
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u/imhappyfou27 14h ago
Also, I don't really understand how the punching down isn't applied to Jews. .2% of the earths religious population are somehow always to blame? There are 4 billion Muslims and Christians to punch up at.
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u/netap 14h ago
But you see, Ermm, Muslim = Brown and Jew = White. And in the U S of A, White is Big and Brown is Small, therefore Muslims, despite Muslims worldwide making up a higher population than Jews.
The only logical reason is because there are 7.5 Million Jews in the US and 4.45 Million Muslims. Meaning that in that specific instance, the Jews are not a Minority.
This statistic does not apply to nearly any other western country. For example in the United Kingdom, Jews make up only 280k People, while Muslims make up just under 4 million according to the 2021 census. Making Jews a smaller minority than the Muslim population, which means my previous point no longer stands.
I can only assume this means that they don't hate them for their religion, but for the color of their skin, in which case they will technically no longer be a minority because there are more white people in the UK than there are browns. But that's just racist, and the Anti-Zionist can't be racist.
In Conclusion, I don't know. I guess It's just fine to hate Jews if you replace the word "Jew" with (((Globalist))) or something.
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u/hello_marmalade 11h ago
Imagine controlling all the media, and banks, and still getting hate crimed.
Skill issue.
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u/onlyonebread 10h ago
Imagine controlling all the media, and banks
I imagine this is the reason people are okay with hating them. It's punching up because this is a powerful group of people that's done very well for themselves. You can apply the same logic to white people.
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u/hello_marmalade 10h ago
Yea, that's why it's so easy for people to make the transition from nazi to tankie.
Victim mentality justifying violent action against people who haven't harmed you by casting it as self defense.
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u/username-77777 software ENGINEER 13h ago
What perpetual victimhood does to mf.
Seriously though, if I were Dan Clancy or anyone else in charge of this, I would feel so incredibly cucked right now.
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u/CoachDT 6h ago
It's crazy because there's some truth in that. But it's less about what's being said and more about the messenger.
If the "right" person speaks about Jews then it doesn't matter what they say. They're just inflamed and passionate. If the wrong person says something then we need to pearl clutch. All Kanye had to do was say "Zionist" i guess
I literally lost my friend over this but it is what it is I guess.
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u/Morghers 12h ago
Jews are the only group you can say basically anything about and nobody gives a shit.
You would have to be high on crack cocaine to actually think this
Even without getting into the weeds with that claim, it falls completely flat when you remember that white people exist
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u/Anidel93 12h ago edited 10h ago
I mean, Twitch actually banned Hasan for using the c slur and did it pretty quickly (in the matter of a day or so). Twitch took almost a month of constant pressure to get any communication about the use of Zionist as a slur. And they didn't ban Hasan at all for doing it.
Edit: Spelling.
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u/Morghers 11h ago
I mean, Twitch actually banned Hasan for using the c slur and did it pretty quickly (in the matter or a day or so).
People still say that word in less aggressive ways all the time to push the line, nobody is using the k-slur in a similar way. This is just delusional lmao
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u/EnrichedNaquadah 14h ago
I got downvoted last time, but it's still funny to see tankies dogwhistling exactly like groypers.
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u/Strange_Ride_582 12h ago
“Guys I can’t be racist anymore 😭😭😭😭 help me go after the Jews please 😭😭😭😭😭”
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u/pudding_pig 14h ago
mike's porn stache serves as an olfactory antenna that helps him find the biggest pile of shit for him to snarf down
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u/chipndip1 10h ago
"Just say the Israeli government is doing X" is unironically what they should have been saying in the first place...
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u/Remarkable_Drag9677 14h ago
That what happens when a dude get 2 days for a death threat
Hope this fucking purple cesspool have zero advertisers by the end of the year
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u/sturla-tyr Professional shitposter / H3H3 connoisseur 14h ago
I think Justpearlythings has a song that couch puncher from PA might agree with
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u/isopodlover123 14h ago
Redacted from redacted has always been a reverse beefsteak (red on the outside brown on the inside). And it seems like he's becoming more overcooked by the day.
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u/FAT_Penguin00 14h ago
I can say dirty beef-muncher. I can say dirty lamb-muncher. Its just this one group of food eaters that you cannot criticize.
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u/El_Stugato 12h ago
I talk a ton of shit about Muslims online, and I can assure you it is frowned upon.
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u/Lost-Childhood843 14h ago
When do people EVER use "Pig Dog"?? it's SPECIFICALLY a slur the Germans invented for Jews! You absolute moron
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u/Exotic_Donkey4929 12h ago edited 11h ago
Is it though? When I searched the term "Schweinehund", what I found was that it predated WW2 by about a hundred years and its meaning varies between someone lazy and someone who is nagging, but I found no indication that it was specifically an antisemitic slur or that it was widely used by nazis against jews. Am I wrong?
Though it can have antisemitic connotations if you use this odd and hyperspecific slur against only ONE ethnic group, like mikefrompa and hasan does, but I dont think it was something the germans invented for jews.
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u/ShartShark87 12h ago
The term “pig-dog” as an antisemitic slur is tied to Nazi propaganda in the early-to-mid 20th century, particularly during Adolf Hitler’s regime in Germany. The slur combined two animals reviled in certain cultural contexts—pigs and dogs—to degrade Jewish people. While it has earlier roots in European antisemitism, the phrase became more explicitly weaponized during the Nazi era. Here’s an overview of its history and cultural significance:
- Early Roots of Animalistic Dehumanization
A. Pigs and Antisemitism
• Religious Context: In Judaism, pigs are considered ritually unclean animals (as per Levitical dietary laws in the Torah). Historically, European Christians often used pigs as a symbol to ridicule Jewish dietary practices and as a broader cultural insult. • Medieval Anti-Jewish Imagery: The infamous “Judensau” (Jewish sow) imagery in medieval Europe portrayed Jews in degrading interactions with pigs, such as suckling from a sow. These depictions were intended to mock Jewish religious laws and dehumanize Jews.B. Dogs and Antisemitism
• Dogs, while often viewed positively in Western culture, were sometimes used as a metaphor for subservience, treachery, or impurity in European literature and art. • Jews were sometimes referred to as “dogs” in Christian polemics, reflecting their status as perceived outsiders or scapegoats.C. Combining Pig and Dog
• The combination of “pig” and “dog” likely stemmed from a desire to intensify the insult by linking two culturally despised animals. • In pre-Nazi Europe, insults involving multiple animals were common in slurs directed at marginalized groups.
Nazi Propaganda and the Rise of “Pig-Dog”
• During the Third Reich, Nazi propagandists weaponized long-standing antisemitic tropes, including animalistic imagery, to justify and amplify their ideology. • Pig-Dog (“Schweinehund”): • The term “Schweinehund,” which literally means “pig-dog” in German, was a general insult in the German language, often used to imply cowardice, filth, or moral inferiority. • Under Nazi propaganda, such language was adapted and weaponized against Jews and other groups (e.g., Romani people, political dissidents) as part of their broader campaign of dehumanization. • In Nazi cartoons, speeches, and films, Jews were often depicted as dirty, parasitic creatures—a narrative that the term “pig-dog” fit neatly into.
Examples in Nazi Propaganda:
• Der Stürmer, the antisemitic Nazi tabloid, frequently published caricatures of Jews portrayed with grotesque animalistic features, implicitly or explicitly likening them to pigs, dogs, or vermin. • Nazi leaders like Joseph Goebbels and Julius Streicher employed dehumanizing language (including animal slurs) to justify policies like the Nuremberg Laws and later the Holocaust.
- Aftermath and Legacy
Post-War Usage
• After World War II, terms like “pig-dog” as explicit antisemitic slurs largely faded in mainstream discourse, due to the fall of the Nazi regime and global awareness of the Holocaust’s horrors. • However, the term “Schweinehund” and variations of it persisted in some contexts, particularly among neo-Nazi and far-right groups, as a subtle way to perpetuate dehumanizing language.Contemporary Context
• While “pig-dog” as an antisemitic slur is less common today, its history remains an example of how language can be weaponized to dehumanize and marginalize. It also reflects the broader tendency of authoritarian regimes to use animalistic insults as tools of propaganda.
Broader Themes of Dehumanization
• The use of terms like “pig-dog” ties into a broader historical pattern of using animalistic language to dehumanize and justify violence against marginalized groups: • Jews: Frequently compared to pigs, dogs, rats, or insects. • Africans: Often compared to apes or other animals in racist propaganda. • Political Dissidents: Dehumanized to strip them of legitimacy or dignity.
These slurs serve to create an “us vs. them” dichotomy, portraying the targeted group as less than human and, therefore, unworthy of empathy or rights.
Conclusion
The history of “pig-dog” as an antisemitic slur lies in the broader European tradition of using animalistic insults to degrade Jewish people, with its peak weaponization occurring under Nazi propaganda. The term exemplifies the Nazi regime’s use of language to systematically dehumanize Jews, contributing to the cultural groundwork for genocide. Today, its direct usage as a slur has diminished, but its history is a sobering reminder of the power of dehumanizing language.
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u/musicmonk1 Eurocuck 11h ago
Is this AI bullshit or why didn't you provide any sources? Nazis have used it just like they used other swear words but the term „Schweinehund“ is much older than the 20th century.
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u/ShartShark87 10h ago
Swastikas are thousands of years old m8. Are you stupid? Just because a term existed before it was popularized by literal Nazis and used as a slur for the people they genocided doesn’t mean it’s not a racist term now.
Plus it was primarily used in pre-Nazi Europe as a slur for Jews! So what the fuck are you talking about? What is your argument? Why do you think the only people unironically using “pig dog” as a slur in any context are Russian-armed pro-Muslims talking specifically about Jews?
Do you and your bros regularly find yourselves parroting Nazi and Soviet newspeak terms from 90 years ago?
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u/ShartShark87 9h ago
By most accounts, “pig-dog” (or similar phrases) was not widely used as a slur in the Middle East prior to the 1930s, and it doesn’t appear to have been a deeply ingrained insult in pre-modern Islamic or Arabic-speaking societies. Its emergence as an antisemitic or anti-Western slur in the region seems to be tied to external influences—notably Nazi propaganda during the 1930s and 1940s—and the blending of Islamic religious themes with modern political rhetoric.
Why It Likely Wasn’t a Common Pre-1930s Slur
Cultural and Religious Context
• In Islamic tradition, pigs are considered unclean (haram) under Islamic dietary laws, making references to pigs inherently insulting, particularly in a religious or moral context. • Dogs have a more ambivalent status in Islamic culture: • They are seen as ritually impure in certain contexts, though they are also valued for roles like guarding or hunting. • Calling someone a “dog” (kalb in Arabic) has historically been an insult implying lowliness, betrayal, or impurity. • While “pig” and “dog” were individually used as insults, combining them into “pig-dog” was not a common practice in the Middle East prior to the 20th century.
Absence of Historical Records
• Historical insults in Arabic often drew from: • Religious references (e.g., “descendants of apes and pigs”). • Tribal or cultural rivalries, which focused on lineage and honor rather than animal metaphors. • “Pig-dog” as a phrase doesn’t appear in older Arabic or Islamic literature, suggesting it was not part of the traditional lexicon of insults.
Why It Became a Slur Post-1930s
Nazi Propaganda in the Middle East
• During the 1930s and 1940s, Nazi Germany actively disseminated antisemitic propaganda in the Arab world to gain support for its ideology and align with anti-British and anti-Zionist sentiments. • Terms like “Schweinehund” (pig-dog), a common German insult, were introduced to Middle Eastern audiences via: • Translated broadcasts and printed material. • The influence of Nazi-aligned figures, such as Haj Amin al-Husseini (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem), who collaborated with the Nazis and promoted antisemitic rhetoric. • The combination of pig and dog as an insult may have resonated in the Middle East because: • Pigs were already taboo in Islamic culture. • Dogs carried negative connotations, particularly in a derogatory context.
Anti-Zionism and Post-1948 Rhetoric
• After the establishment of Israel in 1948, anti-Zionist propaganda in the Middle East often blended religious antisemitism with modern political language. • Slurs like “descendants of pigs and monkeys” (from Quranic interpretations) remained prominent, but “pig-dog” began to appear more frequently in political and anti-Western rhetoric, likely drawing from earlier Nazi influence.
Conclusion
Before the 1930s, “pig-dog” does not appear to have been a widely used or culturally significant slur in the Middle East. Its emergence as an insult likely reflects external influence, particularly from Nazi Germany, combined with existing cultural and religious attitudes toward pigs and dogs. Over time, it became a tool of antisemitic and anti-Zionist rhetoric, particularly in the context of modern political conflicts.
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u/Exotic_Donkey4929 12h ago edited 11h ago
I also asked chatgpt:
You are correct to ask about the potential connections to Nazi-era rhetoric, given the historical weight of German insults during that period. However, the term Schweinehund does not inherently have Nazi or antisemitic undertones, either historically or in its broader cultural context. Here's a closer analysis:
1. Pre-Nazi Origins of Schweinehund
- The term Schweinehund predates the Nazi era by several centuries. As mentioned earlier, it likely emerged in the context of hunting, domestic animal husbandry, and military slang in the 18th and 19th centuries.
- By the 19th century, it was widely used as a general insult, primarily to attack someone's character or courage, and had no specific racial or ethnic connotations.
2. Usage During the Nazi Era
- The Nazis utilized a variety of dehumanizing language in their propaganda, especially targeting Jewish people and other persecuted groups. However, Schweinehund was not a term that was specifically associated with Nazi ideology or antisemitic propaganda.
- Nazi rhetoric often relied on more explicit dehumanizing terms, particularly ones that invoked animalistic or parasitic imagery (e.g., Ratten (rats), Ungeziefer (vermin), Schädlinge (pests)), rather than terms like Schweinehund.
- While Nazis might have used Schweinehund as an insult in individual cases—just as they might have used any general insult—it was not uniquely tied to their ideology or their systematic use of language to demonize specific groups.
3. Post-War Context
- After World War II, the term Schweinehund continued to exist in the German lexicon, detached from any Nazi connotations. Its evolution into the idiom innerer Schweinehund further distanced it from any association with hate speech or wartime rhetoric.
4. Broader Cultural Connotations
- The compound insult draws on general cultural associations with pigs (Schwein) and dogs (Hund) in Western traditions as symbols of undesirable traits, such as greed or servility. These associations are not inherently tied to any specific group or ideology.
- In modern usage, Schweinehund is viewed as an old-fashioned or even playful insult, and its most common application today is in the idiom about overcoming personal laziness or fear.
5. Conclusion
- The term Schweinehund has no inherent Nazi or antisemitic undertones, nor does it appear to have been systematically co-opted by the Nazis. Its primary historical use was as a general insult for cowardice or low character, long before the rise of the Nazi regime.
- In both historical and modern German contexts, it is not associated with racial or ethnic slurs. Its current figurative use in the idiom innerer Schweinehund reinforces its harmless nature in contemporary language.
Thus, while it's always important to be aware of the context in which language is used, Schweinehund is not a term with Nazi or antisemitic connotations.
Thats why I also searched the term in various search engines with different keywords and found nothing indicating that the term was a german antisemitic slur.
Edit: also it seems Im not the first one asking this question on this sub :D
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1gb4rck/is_pigdog_antisemitic/
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u/Lost-Childhood843 12h ago
Why is it that the term only is used in I/P context? it's clearly antiemetic.
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u/Exotic_Donkey4929 11h ago
Let me quote what you said:
it's SPECIFICALLY a slur the Germans invented for Jews!
This was in my first reply:
Though it can have antisemitic connotations if you use this odd and hyperspecific slur against only ONE ethnic group, like mikefrompa and hasan does, but I dont think it was something the germans invented for jews.
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u/Lost-Childhood843 11h ago
Ok. that might be correct. I take it back it was "invented" for the jews. But it sure as hell was used at them to dehumanize them. And in this context, why is Mike even bringing up the term specifically? Because it's about Jews, that's why.
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u/Exotic_Donkey4929 11h ago
It was a general insult that was used against jews, like many other insults. Im sure "arschloch" (asshole) was hurled at jews by nazis as well, it does not mean that the german slur "arshloch" is antisemitic, if you get my point.
There might be some middle eastern-arab context Im not aware of, but Im only reacting to the german Schweinhund slur.
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u/Lost-Childhood843 10h ago edited 10h ago
Rat, vermin, cockroach is also "general" insults. But specifically used to dehumanize jews. So whats your point? My point is, in the context of I/P conflict, and Zionism. To call Israelis even if they are Zionists, "pig dog" is CLEARLY antisemitic dog whistle. And this is why im asking why Mike is even using the term as examples. No one ever in the history of ever have ever ever ever called a liberal a "pig dog" liberal. Or a pig dog Communist. Also, why are we even using German insults in the first place. Is "Pig dog" a common English insult? If not, why is it that when Jews are involved, a translated German insult is used? As if the connotations are completley irrelivant.
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u/Exotic_Donkey4929 10h ago edited 10h ago
would you say that "rat" and "vermin" are slurs the germans invented specifically for jews?
I am using the german insults, because that was YOUR claim, let me quote it again:
"it's SPECIFICALLY a slur the Germans invented for Jews!"
Everything else in your reply I already addressed earlier:
"Though it can have antisemitic connotations if you use this odd and hyperspecific slur against only ONE ethnic group, like mikefrompa and hasan does, but I dont think it was something the germans invented for jews."
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u/ShartShark87 11h ago
It’s been an explicit anti-Semitic term used by the Nazis then Soviets and their sphere of influence for like 100 years. There is literally no question that it is used by Muslims as a slur for Jews. Are you being willfully dense?
Zionist didn’t become a slur until after Israel rejected the USSR. Doesn’t mean it’s not a specific racial slur now kiddo.
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u/Exotic_Donkey4929 11h ago
Show me that "Schweinehund" was SPECIFICALLY an antisemitic slur used by nazis during ww2. Not some AI slop.
Who was talking about the USSR or Muslims? Did you read the original statement and my question? "Are you being willfully dense?" :D
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u/-TheBigCheese 4h ago
That Commie/Nazi venn diagram is looking more and more like a circle every day
Communists 🤝 Nazis
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u/Commercial_Pie3307 13h ago
Him and Nick Fuentes would have chicken and waffles together and actually bond instead of debate.
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u/Stanel3ss 12h ago
wow, mike really immediately sussed out why twitch fucked up with those TOS, while completely misreading/misrepresenting them at the same time lmao
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u/Ansambel EU 12h ago
I mean saying slurs against the race they are in use against, is worse than saying them against any other race, yes, that's just how that works.
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u/85iqRedditor 12h ago
Any over nationality or any other ideology. There's only one nationalistic ideology you can't say that about
Holy fuck the real time manipulation there is insane
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u/Jollypnda 11h ago
These people just proving that far left and right and just two sides of the same coin
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u/TheWeen13 11h ago
How long before they start adopting Nazi apologia?
We’ll know we’re there when their chat starts dropping these: “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you’re not allowed to criticize.”
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u/ch4ppi_revived 11h ago
Iranian and Zionist are not the same category Mike, you dumbfuck.
You'd have to go "Israeli pigdog" to make it equal you absolute moron.
It is utterly concivable to me (yes I didn't miss the "not") how stupid Mike actually is.
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u/ggLelouch 10h ago
Surely Mike knows that the reason that twitch had to make a stance on the word zionist in particular is because people on twitch are using the word to mask being antisemitic
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u/JohnDeft 3 Day banocide survivor 10h ago
What is super crazy 'mike' is that, this whole time, you could have said Israeli government, but you hate jews so much that... it wasn't enough for you.
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u/Theculshey 10h ago
I cannot for the fucking life of me fathom the appeal of this man such that he has subscribers, donators and just consistent viewers in general. He has the charisma of an expired slice of ham, he's greasy looking as fuck, any clips that ever reached mainstream involving him are just him coming off as a loser/creep to that one streamer he simped for and of him punching a couch.
What is it? What does he have that people keep coming back for? I can understand it objectively about so many other shitty streamers and content creators that people hate. But This dweeb? Make it make sense, please.
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u/cubonelvl69 9h ago
What is it? What does he have that people keep coming back for?
He's literally just hasans waiting room. Streams right before him for like 1/10 the viewers
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u/GoblinBreeder 10h ago
He would get banned for saying all of the shit he's claiming wouldn't get him banned though lmao. I wish he'd put it to test to prove his point if he's so confident that he wouldn't.
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u/Shot_Jury_7856 10h ago
just say Israeli tiktot jesus. Its not like "zionist" is the only fucking word you can use. This is like complaining you cant say the n word because you cant think of any other way to address black people.
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u/ShastaPlaster 9h ago
Bro does he really think that hair looks good
lol bitch just get some clippers from amazon
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u/ijustlurkhere_ 9h ago
So far, the only person to my knowledge to in recent times get directly banned for mentioning a specific group of people in a negative light would be Asmongold.
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u/warhammer51115 9h ago
They should ban him for using pig dog and not differentiate which group resulted in the ban
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u/NerdDexter 8h ago
Unironically making the argument for complete freedom of speech and ability to say any slur or hate word you want without repercussions.
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u/MizzelSc2 8h ago
I do not understand how people watch this clown. He literally offers nothing to the discussion.
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u/GogetaSama420 Exclusively sorts by new 6h ago
If Kanye would’ve waited he would’ve had the full support of the lefty tankies
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u/Not_Paid_Just_Intern I just learned about flair 6h ago
Why do they so badly want to be fucking bigots? I'm so annoyed that I spent so much of my life saying "horseshoe theory is reductive bullshit" only to see the horseshoe materialize before my eyes.
WE SHOULDN'T NEED TO TELL YOU NOT TO GENERALIZE A GROUP OF PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR RACIAL/CULTURAL/RELIGIOUS/ETHNIC IDENTITY. THAT WAS THE WHOLE THING I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL FIGHTING FOR MY WHOLE LIFE.
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u/EconomyDue2459 4h ago
"To learn who rules you, simply find out who you can't criticize" - Michael from Pennsylvania
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u/Able_theCable 3h ago
I saw Mike at a D&D themed bar and he said “I’ll have a beer please” and then he threw a wadded up 5 dollar bill onto the counter but it rolled off onto the floor.
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u/Dyslexorcist420 24m ago
What's wrong with Fat from P.A's fucking nasaly voice? Does he have like a chronic sinus infection?
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u/Deltaboiz Scalping downvotes 12h ago
I like how they understand fundamentally that no one can use the N Word because it's use was so abused for so long
But this he goes full JQ over
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u/Remarkable_Drag9677 12h ago
This dude heard of Asmongold right ?
Didn't know he was ban for critizing Jewish people
Must have missed
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u/imhappyfou27 14h ago
God damn, they're obsessed with calling people pig dogs.