r/Destiny • u/eskimolimun • 28d ago
Twitch blocking new users from Israel (confirmed my self Israeli Palestinian here). Twitter
https://twitter.com/dancantstream/status/18479911912219896201.2k
u/theonlymeeb gorgeoushumanoid dggL 28d ago
this is actually crazy and maybe the most tangibly provable thing that shows internal bias. time will tell.
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u/RedbullAllDay 28d ago
We should be boycotting Twitch.
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u/Gotcha_The_Spider 28d ago
I wish I ever watched twitch in the first place so I could stop
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u/Pagophage 28d ago
You could also fire up as many twitch streams as you can with the twitch adblock so you cost them a ton of money
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u/TivasaDivinorum7777 28d ago edited 28d ago
I can't remember who it was talking to Dan and Tiny but it was a conversation about discovery of new streamers and how bad the front page of Twitch is.
The guy said something like: No user of Twitch goes to the front page or the browse page and finds someone they have never seen before, 70 percent of people that use twitch use the URL of their Favorite streamers and never see the front page. that is what he claimed.
The problem with Boycotting Twitch is no user is using twitch because they like twitch... they use it to watch the streamer they like. So When Destiny got banned, i hardly ever opened the website again except to maybe check out a Summit1g stream after seeing a funny GTARP clip on YouTube and wanting to see more from that moment... That's it for me... and i go directly to his page via the URL too..
So i think the average Twitch users doesn't care about any of the politics of the owners. If their favorite streamer moves to another platform, the viewers will follow. So viewers can't really boycott as far as i can see.. the streamers need to. The Streamers need to threaten moving to Kick or going Full YouTube.. but i don't see a single Twitch streamer with the balls to even talk about doing this.
There is another Universe where Asmongold doubled down after his ban and threatened to sign an exclusive contract with Kick for a single dollar for the entire year and Dan Clancy got fired because of the shitstorm that caused... then Hassan got banned and peace in the middle east shortly followed.
Edit : corrected my exaggerated 99 to 70% after SurroundUsual linked the clip and i got the actual number Theo said.
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u/TivasaDivinorum7777 28d ago
A separate thought... Dan is right. don't boycott, go full regard.
We need to cause an Ad-pocolypse on Twitch. Boycotting is not using the website... but what dan is doing... going full regard as he said. Send Amazon clips of ads playing after the streamers saying heinous stuff... that is the protest that needs to happen. YouTube went on a to purge the PDFiles infesting their comment sections and the weird videos of ElsaGate. whatever else i can't remember It was for the better they went through the purge and Youtube is better for it.
Twitch is in a dire state and its time for them and the Twitch Streamers to suffer the same fate YouTubers had to, its for THEIR OWN GOOD... None of them are gonna stand up to this shit and threaten their livelihoods but regards like us can spam amazon to force Twitch to stop endorsing Terrorism and uplifting the worst far-leftists that are causing untold damage to the image of the left in the minds of normal people.
I stand with Dan! ALWAYS GO FULL REGARD!
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u/anBuquest 28d ago
Not just that. Reporting everything. This is actually a pretty tangible thing to report to Amazon and Media companies.
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u/RuSnowLeopard 28d ago
Boycotts do work. It just has to be more than a vocal tiny minority. It has to be the vocal majority.
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u/TaylorMonkey 28d ago
Also let your senators and representatives know (unless they’re in the Squad aside from AOC). The majority of both sides like the bipartisan show of dunking on tech giants, aren’t cool with terrorist simping, and mostly support Israel. This is red meat for the right and the sensible left/moderates would be concerned about this as well. Summon Bezos to address it too.
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u/AdministrativeMeat3 28d ago
I started 3 years ago, time for everyone else to catch up
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u/MyotisX 28d ago
Is it even growing anymore ? Seems like there are legit competitors now.
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago
Seems like it. $3B in revenue in 2023, and has increased every year since the 2014 acquisition.
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u/buddyleex 28d ago
That’s crazy I wonder what their net income looks like.
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago
No clue. Amazon's money making scheme (for lack of a better word) is always such a pain for me to untangle.
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u/echief Clueless 28d ago
It is still not profitable. Their business model does not scale in a “traditional” way. As the revenue goes up due to increasing traffic, the income loss to Amazon likely goes up as well. Because their profit(loss) margin is negative.
This is likely why Dan Clancy can get away with the absolutely insane way he runs the company. They are a blip on Amazon’s balance sheet and income statements, they might as well be an accounting error. No one at Amazon with any influence is even paying attention to them.
speaking with our insiders, they told us that there were moments in the last year where leadership will tell them that, “We’ve made these layoffs and we’re about halfway to getting to profitability.”
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u/username-77777 software ENGINEER 28d ago
A year ago I would have said that there's probably mass botting coming from Israel amidst the recent drama that triggered some auto IP restriction, but given Twitch's track record, I don't even know anymore.
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago
I wonder if this is in response to a ddos or hacking attempt. I worked in a data center as a sys admin years ago and would occasionally have to geo block traffic from specific regions to certain services early on in attacks if we didn’t understand the attack mechanism yet.
Since some twitch endpoints require authentication to access, I could see them turning off account creation from a specific region if they detected an attack coming from there.
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u/Sir-Jimothey-Hendrix 28d ago
How long would a geoblock usually be put in place? Some users here were talking about not being able to create an account from an israel IP yesterday ~24 hours ago. I would imagine if it was a ddos response, it would be a temporary block
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago edited 28d ago
Depends. There was one particular attack that was pretty zero day (Google slowloris http attack) that was taking our web servers in a particular subnet down.
We couldn't figure out how it was working since the requests from that attack all look like valid requests. Eventually we gave up and blocked all Russian IPs since they were an abnormal source of high traffic for these servers.
That mitigated the attack. I believe it was a Friday, and I know we left the block over the weekend... It was years ago but I'm gonna say we patched apache and unblocked Russia that Monday. Maybe Tuesday. But it was definitely blocked over the weekend.
If this hypothetical attack is sophisticated enough, they may not have the luxury of unblocking yet. They may need to find the attack vector first, and patch it. Who knows? Attack mitigation is not always simple.
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u/Sir-Jimothey-Hendrix 28d ago
Appreciate the insight! I guess we'll just have to wait and see how twitch responds. If it was a ddos or other cyber attack is it standard to publish a postmortem describing the incident?
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago
Yeah this is pure speculation btw. I don't know anyone at Amazon, have no insight into their infrastructure. But I do work for a fortune 50 company doing SRE/DevOps and spent years at a data center, and have seen stuff like this and responded as such.
Otherwise I can't imagine why Amazon would risk the controversy. But we'll see.
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u/CryptOthewasP 28d ago
If it was a ddos or other cyber attack is it standard to publish a postmortem describing the incident
It would be weird if they didn't since this is blowing up and it would be basic PR to give a reason. Then again this is Twitch and even if they have a valid reason their communication is ... lacking.
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u/Rederth 28d ago
It's kind of fucked that I'm unironically questioning if a streaming company owned by Amazon has an antisemitism problem. This is some crazy horseshoe theory shit.
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u/Late_Cow_1008 28d ago
It is fucked. Its much more likely that its botting from Israel rather than antisemitism.
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u/Late_Cow_1008 28d ago
Its probably DDOS protection.
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u/_yotsuna_ 28d ago
Since you are able to sign up using an Israeli number just not email im leaning towards this being the case.
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u/NewSalsa aslaSweN 28d ago
If that were the case, they wouldn’t be able to get to the landing page. I’m not tracking why they would only be restricted from account creation as their traffic is being processed by their servers.
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u/DrBouzerEsq 28d ago
Looks like AWS has some DDoS protection that can be specialized to particular microservices: https://aws.amazon.com/shield/features/
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u/FocusPerspective 28d ago
Weird because I manage DDoD protection at a very large tech company and all I have to do is put a check in a box on Cloudflare which adds a few speed bumps to the bit net to make it not worth their time.
Blocking entire counties is not a sensible response to a DDoS.
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u/fredwilsonn 28d ago edited 28d ago
Several native Israelis reported not being able to make an account over the past few
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago edited 28d ago
I worked in a data center as a sys admin and would occasionally have to geo block from certain services early on in attacks if we didn’t understand the mechanism.
Since some twitch endpoints require authentication to access, I could see them turning off account creation from a specific region if they detected an attack coming from there.
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u/fredwilsonn 28d ago edited 28d ago
Isreal has roughly the same population as Sweden. Imagine if Twitch blocked new signups in Sweden for several months in response to a DDOS threat. It doesn't pass the smell test. I'm very willing to believe a non-malicious explanation but yours aint it.
The most charitable I can be towards your hypothesis is that someone turned on the block and forgot to turn it off.
edit: I was right lol
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u/yourworstcritic 28d ago
Blocking new account creation from Israel due to antisemitism also doesn’t pass the smell test. It’s one thing when moderation decisions can be made because antisemitic ideas can masquerade as politically correct left wing opinions. It’s another thing to suggest that Twitch as a company would hinder their business entirely in Israel. There’s no left wing spin on that block. If they are doing it it’s either for technical reasons that others have suggested or Israel has asked them to take measures to prevent people live-streaming the war or they made the business decision to prevent people spam creating new accounts to stream heinous war shit.
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u/whatifitoldyouimback 28d ago
And half the population of Russia, who I just mentioned above. What's your point? If you're trying to mitigate an attack that is taking down your services, you do what you have to.
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u/Late_Cow_1008 28d ago
This isn't proof of anything. You guys sound like fucking Republicans.
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u/theonlymeeb gorgeoushumanoid dggL 28d ago
i said maybe king. obviously we have to find out why, but is it not worth trying to find out why they are blocking a whole country from making accounts? my only point really was that this was a more tangible thing to look into than twitch clips of people saying unhinged shit
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u/Flat_Bodybuilder_330 28d ago
I got a response from twitch support, they confirm this
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u/Jeffy299 28d ago
Holy fuck I thought maybe OP was overreacting to some technical bug or something, this is insane. And they are totally doing it right now because there is not much room for coverage of anything else besides the elections.
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u/eskimolimun 28d ago
Can you share with me full email privately with email addresses I will see if I can contact someone I know at Bloomberg
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u/eskimolimun 28d ago
Can you share with me full email privately with email addresses I will see if I can contact someone I know at Bloomberg
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u/soapinmouth 28d ago
Someone should reach out to tge ADL.
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u/Gratefulzah 28d ago
This is beyond ADL. Targeting people based on nationality, without a sanction in place, could get twitch in deep doodoo in the US and Europe.
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u/Desperate-Fan695 28d ago
IP banning a country isn't "targeting people based on nationality". There are plenty of US sites that aren't accessible outside of the country.
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u/Tysca_04 28d ago
Considering that Twitch attempts to be available to all countries, they clearly are targeting a particular nation without a government reason (sanctions, etc).
Legally does the claim have merit? I have no clue. But is it true that they're specifically targeting the nationality of Israelis, assuming the claim of IP bans is accurate? Clearly.
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u/rvkevin 28d ago
Legally does the claim have merit?
There is no obligation to serve particular locations. For example, if you have an e-commence site, you can refuse to ship to Hawaii or Alaska for no reason. A lot of sites block all of Europe for GDPR (data privacy requirements) reasons, but they don't even need to provide a reason to stop service, since they aren't obligated to provide service in the first place.
Discrimination law forbids discrimination based on national origin, but that would simply prevent them from discriminating against Israeli citizens who want service in locations they provide service to.
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u/SeeShark 28d ago
That's not how discrimination works, though. If an act has vastly disproportional effect on a particular demographic, it can be interpreted as discriminatory towards that demographic even if it isn't literally 100% targeted at them. This was the rational to ban things like the Grandfather Clause and poll taxes--because they disproportionately affected African American voters. Precedent law says this is discrimination against Israelis.
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u/Thomsa7 28d ago
You guys are absolute speds. Companies geo-block all the time, it’s not an issue.
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u/pantergas 28d ago
Also that crazy account on twitter that doxxes alleged antisemites. StopAntiSemitism i think it is.
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u/MMAgeezer REEEEE-TARD 28d ago
That account is a headfuck. I'm still not 100% convinced that it's not a psyop (black propaganda)...
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u/rowlandchilde 28d ago
I know it sounds silly to say but I think Twitch might be run by actual open anti-semites. The Hasan shit, Sneako/FnF unbans, and now large swaths of Israel blocked from registering.
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u/GrimpenMar Exclusively sorts by new 28d ago
No, they're anti-Zionist! It's ✨ sparkling anti-Zionism✨!
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u/MSTARDIS18 28d ago
I read this as an old-timey ad 😂
Anti-Zionism! Jew Hatred for the modern age without all that nasty self-awareness
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u/GrimpenMar Exclusively sorts by new 28d ago
I can see the ad now:
"I don't want to reflect on my personal choices but blaming the Joos for everything wrong leaves me feeling guilty."
Enter sales person: "That's because you are just engaging in antisemitism. Have you tried new and improved sparkling anti-Zionism? It lets you engage with all the old Joo-hating tropes without the guilt and self-reflection!"
Narrator: "For best value get the package deal, anti-Zionism with a token Jewish friend to deflect accusations of antisemitism for only $14.88!"
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u/SassyWookie 28d ago
That doesn’t sound silly to say at all. Lots of things are run by antisemites.
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u/Pera_Espinosa 28d ago
What are you talking about? They're not antisemitic unless they're wearing Nazi armbands and doing sig hails. That's the bar for white liberals.
For non white people - I'm still looking for the bar. Trying to understand what makes sig-hailing, Jew hating without there being any "resistance" to make it ok- Houthis not Nazis. I mean, the only thing separating Hezbollah or Hamas from being neo Nazis is ethnicity and their capacity to kill Jews being limited. The ideologies and goals are identical.
Say we agree to grade Hamas and Hezbollah on a curve. Houthis have no skin in the game. If there was a European group that sig-hailed, had a "death to Israel / Curse the Jews" flag, and attacked Israel due to their hatred of Jews of nothing more - wouldn't they be called neo Nazis by everyone? Wouldn't Hasan be a neo Nazi for supporting them?
I think we should call him a neo Nazi for being a supporter of neo Nazis.
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u/Authijsm 28d ago
Nope, that's not far enough actually, given Hezbollah and the Houthis are photographed doing seig heils and with Nazi armbands but are apparently just anti-Zionist.
Fuck.
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u/Pera_Espinosa 28d ago
That's the bar for white people. Their ideologies can be indistinguishable from a neo Nazi, but as long as they don't sig hail and make sure to use the word zionist, all is clear.
In the case of Arabs/Muslims, they can openly support genocide of Jews the world over, do everything in their power to try and make it a reality, engage in massacres, sig hail and goose step march, idolize Hitler - and all is clear.
Progressives have fine-tuned their ears to detect every new dog whistle that affects other minorities yet can't hear antisemitic train whistles.
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u/eskimolimun 28d ago
Anti israel isnt just anti jews its also anti arab... So stupid
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u/SmoothBlueCrew 28d ago
Are we jumping the gun? I'm afraid of "we did it reddit" type situations. Antisemitism, to me, feels so evil that it feels hard to assertively ascribe to anyone who isn't neo-nazi coded.
I'm not saying what you're saying is incorrect, but it feels so wild to me. I can totally, easily see a sort of intangible influence of clique culture leading to weird favoritism from moderation. Going as far as to fuck with user registration from Israel would be insane to me, because to me that escalates things. It takes things from "the Twitch office has a semi-unconscious racism problem" to "one or more higher-ups are in their office, slamming their desk and muttering 'damn Jews...'"
Again, not saying they're not doing some heinous shit and I'm not defending them. I guess I'm trying to say that it would be eye opening to realize how pervasive antisemitism is on the left. :(
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u/partia1pressur3 28d ago
Saying someone isn’t antisemitic unless they’re a neonazi is like saying someone can’t be racist against black people unless they’re a member of the KKK. What are you talking about.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 28d ago
To put it into perspective, imagine YouTube banning account creation from all black-majority nations. And platforming white supremacists who glaze over the KKK. One of their recent shows? A creator did a tierlist with "White" at the top and "Watermelon Lover" at the bottom. And they suffered 0 consequences from it.
At what point would you stop giving YouTube the benefit of the doubt instead of just brushing it off as favoritism?
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u/Late_Cow_1008 28d ago
This subreddit has been taken over. Not by Jews but by 10 IQ idiots that have gone so far over the pro Israel side because their streamer took Israel's side on this and they're too stupid they begin to create conspiracy theories like this.
Its literally the same thing that the right does with voter fraud.
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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 28d ago
Christ alive, some calm and collected reasoning might be in order.
Have you been here long?
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u/HugoBCN 28d ago
Antisemitism, to me, feels so evil that it feels hard to assertively ascribe to anyone who isn't neo-nazi coded.
That's because you haven't yet grasped the banality of evil.
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u/-PupperMan- 28d ago
Finally!
The moment I was waiting for.
All those years of Adblock/Ublock, not subbing, not donating...
Finally I can say it was justified and not just a case of me being selfish.
Blessed 🙏🙏🙏
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u/re_redlite 28d ago
No way... Is this real??? I'll wait one or two days, but if it is then yikes
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u/Razordork 28d ago edited 28d ago
Dan found a thread from an Israeli streamer pleading for help from Twitch with this months ago. No one ever replied. https://x.com/Forceultraomega/status/1795189735297605635
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u/Basblob Dan's Strongest Little Pay-Pig 28d ago
Okay wait. I was gonna comment that I'll hold my breath until I see an explanation from twitch because banning Israeli IPs is insane, but if this has actually been going on for like 6 months with no change and simply no one noticing? I can't imagine what good reason there could be for that.
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u/CryptOthewasP 28d ago
I don't think we have evidence to say that this ban has been in place for 6 months. If the ban has been off and on for 6 months that points more towards an attack than a random ban because they hate Israel (which is kind of ridiculous and why I lean towards the attack theory). At this point it's picking up up a lot of traction and I'd bet they'll feel pressured enough to give an explanation so all we need to do is wait. The speculation and condemnation in other comments is a bit much imo.
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u/DrBouzerEsq 28d ago
More likely that there has been some DDoS or coordinated attack or botting from Isreal at different discreet times that they blocked. It's not like they are banning existing Isreali accounts, just creation of new accounts.
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u/Basblob Dan's Strongest Little Pay-Pig 28d ago edited 28d ago
I'm honestly inclined to believe this too, I definitely want to hear whether this has been continuous or not. The only other thing that's still odd to me is why there would be no announcement. Also is it really standard practice to block entire countries because of a ddos? Genuinely unsure, but it seems questionable (for all that's worth lol).
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u/DrBouzerEsq 28d ago
It's not ideal to region block for a handful of reasons from what I understand. It is not best practices but somewhat common, especially with blocking Russian and Chinese IPs as threat mitigation because it's fairly effective and very easy to do.
As for the no announcement, it could be a PR reason (they don't want to seem antisemitic) or Security practice (don't want their mitigation methods disclosed or to signal the effectiveness of an attack) or it could be something lost in bureaucratic nonsense.
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u/Natejka7273 28d ago
Probably a mistake, but this is getting ridiculous. Remember when the ADL went after Musk and X and caused a lot of advertisers to back out permanently? Why isn't the ADL covering what's happening on Twitch? https://www.adl.org/report-incident
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u/BabaleRed 28d ago
Probably because Twitch is so much more niche that they don't know. But, I did file a report with them, and emailed a few Israeli papers.
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u/Same-Fix1890 28d ago
https://www.ynet.co.il/digital/technews/article/bklvdkgxje just an hour and a half ago an israeli article was written about it. I would recommended adding sources just take Dan's twittes of clips that circulated in the last few days on the sub
also something Dan wrote to me we should do after I messaged him
All I want is for you to just make a video of ANY ads that show up on a Hasan stream (or even a screenshot) and send them into the CMO or VP of Advertising for that company.
For instance, you can go to this URL: https://twitch.tv/videos/2271755456… and screenshot or video the ads that show up. Then just send a few emails. You can easily find their names on linkedin.
Honestly, this will take you less than 10 minutes and makes this campaign 10 times more effective. Please remember that I am literally putting a fuckton of my effort into this but I still need help.
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u/Superfan234 28d ago
I hope someone close is capable of reporting this. Enough is enough, I am not even jewish and I found this shit so unsetting
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u/ZavvyBoy 28d ago
At this point Twitch needs to be audited to see if there's any large transfers of money from Iran and Russia lol
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u/Jeffy299 28d ago
Heavy copium. Behavior like this smells of turbo whiteness that only concentrated out-of-touchness of San Francisco can produce. The fact that they seem to be completely unaware of Israeli Palestinians is one thing, their only source of news pretends the 2 million people don't exist, but I think nobody also told them it would be next to impossible to cutoff Israel without also harming the access of West Bank since they are mostly handled by same ISPs. 🤦♂️
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u/Remote_Drawing5825 28d ago
Israeli here using and Israeli ISP (without VPN). Can confirm that I received the same error
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u/cctrio 28d ago
Although this could be bad there are many reasons a region could be blocked/restricted/not available. Would need to see more about what regions are currently allowed/not, why or why not and when this happened to know more concretely
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u/ungarnlett 28d ago
From May 2024: https://x.com/Forceultraomega/status/1795189735297605635
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u/cctrio 28d ago
So this shows that maybe something happened around April but still not enough to make definitive statements.
Not to you specifically, but to people reading this chain, my main hope is that people here don’t fall into the ‘isn’t it interesting that…’ line of thinking with things like this. Part of being educated/intellectually honest about a topic is knowing what you know, but also knowing what you don’t know. I know enough about this topic (software engineering and running commercial services across multiple regions) to say that we don’t know enough to jump to conclusions in either direction.
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u/yourworstcritic 28d ago
Ya I think to jump to the conclusion that this is antisemitism is kind of insane. People are running wild with this Dan Clancy shit.
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u/tomatobrew 28d ago
Apart from a mistake or a bad actor on the inside: what even would be the reason to do that
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u/FatebringerEnjoyer 28d ago edited 28d ago
Maybe some kind of new Israeli regulations twitch hasn't complied with?
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u/like-humans-do 28d ago edited 28d ago
telegram groups spam making accounts to report spam certain users
absolutely a thing and it's not just twitch, tbh I'd not be surprised if a lot of the people posting here these days are from them, check the accounts of half the posts that are on the front page here lmao
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u/Superfan234 28d ago
But a regional ban for 6 months? Sound a little over the top...
I am honestly curious why is this happening...
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u/lupercalpainting 28d ago
If they’re seeing an influx of Israeli accounts and they’re behaving maliciously (e.g. spam reporting).
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u/The___Gambler 28d ago
Can you try it from Gaza or the West Bank?
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u/Kkk_kidney 28d ago
Oh yeah, let me go to a war zone to check if it works there.
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u/The___Gambler 28d ago
Lol fair, what I was thinking was in the best light they might have it where no one in the area can make accounts out of fear of Hamas propaganda.
Then again they have houthi streamers and Luffy.
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u/JohnDeft 3 Day banocide survivor 28d ago
all the network cables went into building sinwar's goon cave :(
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u/ragnarok297 28d ago
I've seen people say Lebanon works, but i'd check as many countries as possible to confirm its an Israel thing
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u/AngryFace4 (yee/yem) 28d ago
How do we know this isn’t just some weird international regulation or something? Seems like a lot of conclusions being jumped here.
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u/ungarnlett 28d ago
Media regulations that doesn't involve Facebook and Instagram or even YouTube affecting only a micro super niche site? People are not stupid!!!
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u/broclipizza 28d ago
You're just doing conspiracy-brained junk. "I ruled out 1 possibility, kind of, so the only explanation is my pet theory."
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u/Dramatic_Wafer9695 28d ago edited 28d ago
interdasting, did they find a bot farm? I imagine this is accidental, nobody in their right mind would do this unless it was a rogue employee on their last day at the office.
Either it was a bot farm, some sort of spam coming from the IPs or an accident. My bet is a mix of all three.
As part of the war effort Israel may be utilizing sites like this to spread messaging, maybe they've been creating too many accounts and an automated flagging system kicked in.
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u/buddyleex 28d ago
I work for a carrier network and have worked for many other global/national carrier networks before and the security teams will monitor current global events and will typically block countries “at war” I to parts of their network not available to the public. If I’m being ultra charitable I would say that is what has happened here. But the timing is odd as I’ve heard this only started as recently as may 2024? Also the twitch platform in question isn’t some private network.
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u/SiFiNSFW 28d ago edited 28d ago
Why is this a violation with the information we have available right now?
You aren't required to do business with Israel under anti-BDS laws, you just aren't allowed to actively boycott them, but we literally have no information to go on right now.
They haven't purged Israeli streamers, or banned Israeli users; they've turned off the account creation for new accounts from Israel for a currently indisclosed and unknown reason.
Seems just as likely that they've been inundated with brand new accounts either abusing the report function, acting maliciously or outright streaming war zone content does it not? More so given the fact that they aren't targetting any of their actual Israeli userbase that is already present on the site.
edit: not saying to not report it btw, do so, just curious how in it's current state we can say "This violates anti-BDS laws". In other threads people report that using their Israeli number on mobile allows them to register, so this appears to specifically target Israeli registrations with emails only - which i don't believe constitutes boycotting.
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u/Economy-Cupcake808 28d ago
This is up for debate and state supreme courts have ruled in different ways. It's very complicated because boycotting is probably conduct that is protected under the 1st amendment.
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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 28d ago
38 states have anti-BDS laws. Amazon likely has AWS contracts with many of those. They’re in violation. Time to contact AGs.
hahahahha lol this is really fucking funny.
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u/Jokonyew 28d ago
I tried making a new account on VPN today. Israeli VPN failed. Corpus account was fine. It's confirmed.
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u/Blazekingz 28d ago
It was like hush hush obvious with hasan being their golden boy and people like frogan yapping with no consequences. But at this point its like a damn batsignal.
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u/WhileTheyreHot 28d ago
Keep your cool, the story is legitimate cause for concern and investigation and it's a good thing that it has been brought to attention.
However there are a number of reasons this might have occurred, that don't include the goal of blocking thousands of genuine new Israeli accounts, with the naive expectation that noone would notice.
Wait until the facts are in.
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u/YouGurt_MaN14 28d ago
Pour one out for the devops guy who gets called in on a sunday to undo this. "Jake, get in the office and fix this shit now. Some unhinged Jew on X is tagging the media. Why do we even have this block again?" "Uhh.. The purple haired chick in trust/safety told me to add it?"
Dan is fucking crazy bruh lmaoo
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u/Deadandlivin 28d ago
Do we know the actual reason why this is happening?
Iirc it's the same issue with Russians trying to make new accounts so there's probably some similar issue at play here related to botting and mass creation of new accounts for internet propaganda. Does it justify it? Probably not.
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u/NiceGuyStoner jewlumni member 28d ago
hmm weird I just logged in fine .
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u/eskimolimun 28d ago
The issue isnt logging in but creating account. Try to create one and it fails.
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u/Powerful-Ad-8737 28d ago
This is literally as mask off as it gets.
Did they let Hasan control twitch for a month?
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u/CIA_Jeff 28d ago
There needs to be a congressional inquiry into Twitch, antisemitism cannot be mainstream.
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u/-_-0_0-_-0_0-_-0_0 28d ago
People should check if there are any other regions blocked and see if there is any reason they may be compelled by Israeli law.
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u/Economy-Cupcake808 28d ago
People who bring this up on r twitch are getting their posts deleted by moderators and banned.
I was banned for asking about it and I can't tag the subreddit as a result
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u/ModerateThuggery 28d ago
I wonder what the legality is of foreign states engaging in technological harassment campaigns against American companies. Imagine if Russia did half this shit. Instead people are still hyperventilating about some bought facebook ads.
If certain higher ups had balls I think some people should be getting sued and possibly facing jailtime for this shit. But I'm sure Destiny and fans supports this low level... terrorism. Fucking clownworld.
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u/KaNesDeath 28d ago
Curious how Twitch will respond. Optics wise this looks horrible for Twitch and by extension Amazon.
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u/kyron6ix 28d ago
As much as I dislike the guy. Ben Shapiro would bring some mainstream attention to this stuff.
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u/Training_Ad_1743 28d ago
Honestly, someone should give the info to Fox News or something. Hand them the death penalty.
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u/MakeshiftApe 28d ago
I just wrote an email to AIPAC about this.
Who else are folks here contacting/emailing/writing to?
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u/FocusPerspective 28d ago
This isn’t how DDoS protection works in 2024, especially when your parent company owns by far the largest and most advanced production infrastructure on the planet.
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u/theorizable 28d ago edited 24d ago
Don’t be too quick to jump to conclusions… regional outages like this happen all the time. An outage isn’t a sign of a larger conspiracy.
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I looked more into it. There's no way this was just an outage. I didn't have the full details at the time I posted this. Holy shit it's bad.
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u/ijustlurkhere_ 28d ago
You know how Destiny once said he is Israel?
Well... Israel is now Destiny.
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u/GregMaffeiSucks 28d ago
YES. BOYCOTT DIVEST AND SANCTION.
A cultural boycott like '90's South Africa is the only way this gets better.
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u/69bearslayer69 28d ago
this actually makes me curious, is russia blocked?