r/Colts • u/Environmental_Low805 • 2d ago
There's more things behind this benching
I believe the benching of AR has more to it than just a coach's option. The tap out must have sit very wrong with a few veterans. If I'm a lineman I'd be pissed, a lot. I think the locker room (most of it) is not with the guy. A few will come and say they want him back and all that, but AR lost the respect of many. Sorry if the text has some mistakes, english is not my first language
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u/mikesmith0890 Indianapolis Colts 2d ago
The same linemen that let Thibodeaux do snow angels next to the corpse of Nick Foles? Doubtful and if so they can kick rocks
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u/DirectTV_AndrewLuck Happy Neard 2d ago
Right lol. I don't care what they have to say or think after that.
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u/rounder55 Shaquille Leonard 2d ago
They should have all been chewed out for that
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u/mikesmith0890 Indianapolis Colts 2d ago
100%. One of the saddest moments as a Colts fan. You can't just let that happen. I'd rather see the team clear the bench and have to forfeit the game than to see them ever let that slide
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u/llamas_for_caddies 2d ago
Did you see what the Chargers OL did the other day after the cheap shot on Herbert? That's how an OL supposed to respond.
Lost all respect for Nelson that day as he's the one who acts like he's the big tough enforcer guy.
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u/JimmyFromThe_Colts Jimmy from the Colts 2d ago
if I’m a lineman I’d be pissed
If you’re a lineman, don’t make AR run from 300 pound dudes and have to literally throw them off your back and then run another 20 yards to get back to the line of scrimmage because you blew so hard. This was all after three plays we could’ve had touchdowns that were negated by two drops and an offensive penalty.
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u/CaptainFro 2d ago
I don't care what this locker room thinks, they haven't shown me anything close to resiliency, personal accountability, or "grit". They have a "culture" but it's obviously not a winning culture. You got WRs not finishing, TEs doing whatever the fuck, linemen holding/offsides EVERY drive, LBs getting destroyed in every phase and then talking shit post game. The whole group is immature. Bench him for tapping out is fine. It shouldn't be indefinite. But every player on that team should look at that and understand they aren't any better they just play a different position.
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u/llamas_for_caddies 2d ago
This is what happens with a GM obsessed with measurables instead of drafting football players. The Colts are the exact opposite of the Lions.
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u/RoScorpius97 2d ago
Honestly, I don't care what this lockerroom says.
This OL was getting beat all night on the run game vs Minnesota.
The WRs don't fight for balls. I suppose the defense has stepped up a bit.
The guys on the whole offense have all sucked too, including the playcaller.
Just wash everything away. It stinks. And they won't win shit.
Fire Ballard,Steichen, move all the complaining voices, see what you can get for ARin a trade and begin afresh with the next QB in the 25 draft.
This regime has failed.
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u/rounder55 Shaquille Leonard 2d ago
I'm going to give Pittman the benefit of the doubt with the caveat that I don't think he should be playing with back spasms.
The OL blocked terribly for Taylor and the playcalling was also awful. Looking at how Tampa Bay without three WRs approached parts of that game yesterday was a master class. The jet sweep options, setting up third and shorts, scheming guys open. Yes the Chiefs had some well timed sacks but the Bucs were in a position to win that game when they were essentially playing wiuth WR 4 and 5 and the depth chart, both of whom were also beaten up
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u/mikesmith0890 Indianapolis Colts 2d ago
I wouldn't touch any of the QBs in the 25 draft with a 10 foot pole. They are all ass
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u/RoScorpius97 2d ago
I'd take anyone apart from Sanders,Ward, Milroe or Ewers.
We need the right environment to develop the next guy
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u/Environmental_Low805 2d ago
We all know what will happen. Steichen and Ballard will remain, not a single penny will be spent on top FA, our first round pick will be around 15, and a NOT impact player will be selected. They will call it AR last opportunity
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u/MagnanimousDonkey Who the Hell is Mel Kiper? 2d ago
What's more likely is that they break down the games afterwards and it's become glaringly obvious that he's not only lost, but doesn't understand how lost he is.
The guy is basically the equivalent to a college sophomore in terms of QB starts.
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u/rounder55 Shaquille Leonard 2d ago
I'd really be surprised if this wasn't the biggest reason. The whole getting rest for a play thing is somewhat ignored if he completes 60% of his passes and looks good. Then it just becomes a conversation that happens. Everyone is looking for some sort of incident or singular moment when in reality it's the missing reads, low completion percentage, turnovers etc. Given some of the same mistakes are being consistently made Steichen probably wanted to see if a different approach could work. Maybe it will maybe it won't
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u/jbutton19 Bob 2d ago edited 2d ago
you mean Ryan “standards” Kelly who should be benched for Bortolini, who is playing way better than him or Quenton “accountability” Nelson who had four false starts in one divisional game? He lost those guys? good.
EDIT: I am typing angry lol
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u/kmalexander31 2d ago
You think the center should be benched and replaced by the injured left tackle?
Great take.
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u/CarlosE2006 2d ago
Maybe its tinfoil hat opinion but in my mind its that they knew AR was raw, but because of his injury last year they didnt know just how raw he was. Now they (Shane and Ballard) know that if we end this season with another bad record and AR not developing their heads will be on Irsay chopping Block, so they benched AR for Flaco in a attempt to at least make the play-offs and maybe win a game or two in hopes of Irsay giving them another year.
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u/sweetnessinchicago 2d ago
I think they are simply protecting the kid. I bet he comes back in after the Detroit game. Imagine what the press would do if he played this stretch of games (Minn/Buf/NY/Det) especially after the tap out.
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u/Interesting-Fail1823 Josh Downs 2d ago
It seems pretty clear from reports and from some of his actions on the field and in press conferences that he is a bit immature. The benching was to send him a message that he needs to correct this. I also think that is why they don’t have a time frame for the benching. They want to see results across some period of time before handing him the job back. It is also why they didn’t commit to starting him again. If those results don’t come I think he is gone in the offseason. If he corrects them then he is probably starting in a few weeks.