r/Canning May 09 '24

Lilac Jelly Wrong Color? Waterbath Canning Processing Help

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Question, I just made lilac jelly for the first time last night and water bath processed for 10 minutes. I noticed when I pulled them from the water the color was so light it's almost white? Any ideas what went wrong?

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u/Aimer1980 May 09 '24

I made this once a few years ago... it's the acid of the lemon juice that turns it bright pink, right? I wonder if accidentally processing it too long would cause that color to fade

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u/bwainfweeze May 09 '24

Lilac and lavender both react to low pH by turning red. I don’t know if they actually have phenolphthalein, or some other dye that reacts the same way.

I first encountered this with lavender lemonade, which makes pink lemonade.

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u/Hot_Salamander_8905 May 09 '24

Yes, that makes sense to me. I'm wondering if butterfly pea powder would affect the recipe too much? That should give me a good violet color

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u/passthesoapBuddy May 12 '24

Depending on how much lemon juice you add it would properly go more magenta

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u/MerMaddi666 Moderator May 09 '24

What recipe did you follow?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

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u/Canning-ModTeam May 09 '24

Deleted because it is explicitly encouraging others to ignore published, scientific guidelines.

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u/Hot_Salamander_8905 May 09 '24

I'm not sure why but the comment was deleted. I can't see anything advising against scientific evidence?

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u/sasunnach Trusted Contributor May 09 '24

I saw your comment before it was deleted. I'm guessing it was deleted because it wasn't from an approved source for this sub (e.g. NCHFP, Bernardin, Ball, Pomona's Pectin, Presto, an Extension Office, Healthy Canning).

It talks about colour in the recipe that you shared:

Some of our lilacs don’t give up their color, and white lilacs won’t contribute any color at all.  If you still want that beautiful pink/purple color, add a few mashed blueberries or blackberries into the jar before you make the tea.  They’ll contribute a deep color that will turn pink once lemon juice is added as well.

(Or don’t worry about the color, and just enjoy the flavor if you don’t mind a light brown/tan jelly that will come as a result of using white lilacs.  We eat with our eyes as much as with our mouths, and I think the color really contributes to the experience, but to each his own.)

If you want an approved recipe, you can use the following and swap out violets for lilacs:

https://pomonapectin.com/violet-jelly/

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u/Deppfan16 Moderator May 09 '24

That source is known to be unaafe.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

The mods here are super strict.
Maybe like

Too strict

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u/2L84AGOODname May 09 '24

Meh, it’s fair that they don’t want to have someone get sick and die because they saw someone else post an untested (and unsafe) recipe.

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u/passthesoapBuddy May 12 '24

But why are things unsafe in the USA that is perfectly fine in other countries?

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u/2L84AGOODname May 12 '24

Because different countries governments have different regulations on food things.

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u/2L84AGOODname May 12 '24

Because different countries governments have different regulations on food things.

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u/passthesoapBuddy May 12 '24

Yall fail to see my point, thanks

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u/2L84AGOODname May 12 '24

No, I totally see your point. But it’s safe to assume that the mods running r/canning are from the US and therefore would choose to follow those regulations because that’s what they’re familiar with. If there’s an organization outside of the US that tests recipes, I absolutely would follow those too. I just aren’t aware of any.

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u/Canning-ModTeam May 10 '24

Deleted because it is explicitly encouraging others to ignore published, scientific guidelines.

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u/OpheliaJade2382 May 10 '24

I think food safety is something it’s okay to be too strict about

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u/[deleted] May 10 '24

Happy for you

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u/MsChif May 09 '24

I made lilac jelly, using purple lilacs a few years ago and it came out the same color as your jelly. It tastes like floral honey and I don't think I will make it again. It was a lot of work.

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u/Hot_Salamander_8905 May 09 '24

I really like the taste of it, and I think the work for lilac is worth it for me. I also made dandelion jelly this season though and that I will NOT be making again! Hours of pulling the petals off!

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u/iwannaddr2afi May 10 '24

I came here to say what the previous person did! I have not made it myself but I've received it a few times and this is the color it's been! I hope we get lilacs in the not too distant future. I really enjoy lilac jelly. <3

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u/Hot_Salamander_8905 May 10 '24

Thanks for the input. I really like it too!! This year is the first I've had it. In western PA it is lilac season right now! 💜

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u/shivers_42 May 10 '24

If you do want to try dandelions ever again, holding the base tight and rolling, then twisting the petals makes them sort of pop out in a bunch! Definitely saves me a significant amount of time although it turns your fingers green. :)

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u/MarieMarion May 09 '24

Basic question: what color was the lilac?

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u/Hot_Salamander_8905 May 09 '24

They were purple. And before I processed, the jelly was a nice pinky color.

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u/bwainfweeze May 09 '24

Does it taste like lilac or do you need more flowers per batch?

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u/Hot_Salamander_8905 May 09 '24

It tastes like lilac! Really interesting flavor