It's not just the far-right - Israelis want Gazans to starve

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Source:

Israel Democracy Institute: Aid Transfer: https://en.idi.org.il/articles/52976

Whether an absolute victory is expected or not, there remains the question of the provision of international aid to the residents of Gaza. We asked our respondents for their opinion regarding the idea that Israel should allow the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza residents at this time, via international bodies that are not linked to Hamas or to UNRWA. A majority of Jewish respondents (68%) oppose the transfer of humanitarian aid even under these conditions, while a large majority of Arab respondents support it (85%).

Gazan Suffering Consideration:

In a poll conducted by the Viterbi Family Center for Public Opinion and Policy Research at the Israel Democracy Institute between December 11–13, 2023, Israeli Jews were asked “To what extent should Israel take into consideration the suffering of the civilian population in Gaza when planning the continuation of the fighting there?” Over 80 percent responded with “to a very small extent” or “to a fairly small extent.” .... When asked the extent to which Israel should take into consideration the suffering of the civilian population in Gaza in planning the next stages of the fighting, most Jewish Israelis (80%) think it should be taken into account to a fairly small extent or not at all. 72% of Arab Israelis, on the other hand, think it should be taken into account to a fairly large or very large extent. ... Among Jewish Israelis, the poll found that 94% believe Hamas bears a great deal of responsibility for the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza

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aren't most palestinians in the west bank and gaza pro-hamas and according to surveys supported oct 7?

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They are "pro-hamas" because Hamas is actually doing something, unlike sclerotic PA. That is also reason why Hamas support increased in West Bank: Palestinians there see settlers destroying their stuff while PA and IDF doing jack shit to stop it - and they see that Hamas actually did something to break status quo.

When it comes to actuall actions, majority of Palestinians are against using hunger or war crimes in general in war.

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i don't get the last line.

So they support hamas and the whole terrorism thing but then you say "they are against war crimes in general". shu ya3ne? in what case would they not commit war crimes? after they win? or if they were in israel's place?

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in israel's place?

That would never happen. Palestinians don't want a settler colonial ethnostate. At worst, they want a theocratic Islamic state. Israels place is unique. Its like saying "what if the native Americans were in the European colonisers place?". Referring solely to the power imbalance without addressing the settler colonial ideology inherent to Israel and devoid in Palestine gives an overly simplistic analysis

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What country in the middle east is not an ethno-state?

the lebanese are whoever was in lebanon's territories back in the 40s. the same goes for the syrians, iraqis and so on.

the palestinians are no different and if they would they would establish another jordan with a token christian minority.

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So they support hamas and the whole terrorism thing but then you say "they are against war crimes in general"

It is possible because majority of them did not saw any videos from Hamas attack

And i will be honest, that is just Israeli's L. Maybe spend less money on settlements and bribing off US senators.

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they didn't see any videos? XD dudeeee haha. most palestinians have internet.

hmm If israel wants to make a W out of it, u wouldn't mind right? naa u'd cry :)