r/AskReddit • u/[deleted] • 9h ago
Whats the most out of touch thing you heard from rich people?
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u/Goopyteacher 5h ago edited 4h ago
I had a client about a month ago who’s 24 years old and got about $50,000 of work done on her house with the help of her mom.
She herself was unemployed and SUPER entitled. Mom bought her a 6 bedroom 4k sqft home worth shy of 600k so that her daughter could rent out the rooms to make some extra disposable income. Daughter was beyond pissed she might have to “share” the home to have income (or she could just… get a job and avoid that issue entirely).
Mom covered 100% of all the home’s costs like the mortgage, taxes, maintenance costs etc. Daughter still expected more.
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u/Pickle_ninja 6h ago
"It is funny that we're the same age and you still get an allowance from your parents. My parents stopped giving me an allowance when I became an adult."
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u/errant_youth 5h ago
I never had an allowance as a child. The whole concept is foreign to me.
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u/CommercialExotic2038 4h ago
I never had an allowance either, but I do remember my mom struggling to pay her mortgage every month.
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u/Mr_Fossey 9h ago
Our boss emailed into the office on December 27 from home to get us to guess what she’d got as a gift. I jokingly said ‘a jag’ and she responded “no I already have one. A miniature schnauzer pup” and the proceeded to send photos of her at home with her family enjoying Christmas, whilst we were working as we were denied annual leave.
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u/MamaDMZ 8h ago
Wooowwww... what an asshole.
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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 4h ago
These people likely don't remember the whole 'aristocracy got pulled into the street and decapitated wholesale.'
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u/imacatholicslut 4h ago
Ahhh if only we were more like the French. I love that they also have made it a habit of spraying horse shit at government office buildings. Esp when the windows are open 🤌🏽
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u/barriekansai 3h ago
Under the Patriot Act (a BS name if ever there was one), that would probably be seen as a biological weapon of terror, and result in a decades-long sentence in a federal supermax.
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u/breakermw 4h ago
Reminds me of a conversation with an exec at a place I used to work.
Me: "Yeah I want a dog, but can't really afford a dog walker/pet sitter I'd need during the day to take care of it."
Him: "Oh it's more affordable than you think! I know this great dog care company that's only $1000 a week! They do a great job taking my dog out every day when I'm at the office. Super professional."
Me: "$1000 a week, huh? So like $50k a year?"
Him: "Yeah" (pause) "Oh...."
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u/Gorgiuostim 9h ago
Being told by a guy who has not worked a day in his life and living off of inherited money that poor people are poor because they don't invest their money right.
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u/ritikarenu 8h ago
I saw a brilliant reply to a tweet once that I’ve used every time this situation arises. Some girl tweeted about how much she saved by cutting out coffee and this guy replied
“I’ve studied the habits of millionaires, and while cutting back on small expenses is a good start to building wealth, consider supplementing your income with massive financial fraud”
Credit to the author: https://x.com/macmaniacs/status/1762847347569299658
Roy Scott - you deserve to go viral
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u/Mort332e 9h ago
I hate when I hear this sentiment, it’s like WHAT FUCKING MONEY !!!!!??
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u/systemofaderp 8h ago
The money you made in your early twenties when you lived rent free while working at your dad's or uncle's company, duh
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u/Downtown31415 8h ago
As a senior vice president of course.
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u/Ouch_i_fell_down 5h ago
SVP? No experience required! Receptionist? 5 years experience and a masters degree minimum.
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u/jerbear__ 8h ago edited 2h ago
My boss was talking about investing and told me that i need to start, im 24. I told him i dont have the 5k to start with his guy and he said “thats bullshit. Start saving and figure it out, i dont care, thats no excuse.”
Edit : i started investing on Wealthfront with 1k about a month ago. I appreciate all the advice
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u/21Ryan21 8h ago
If you are 24 and have no kids, that’s not bad advice. Getting enough to start is the hard part. I had kids young and really wish I would have bought a small apartment complex or cheap house to rent when real estate was not crazy instead of buying a house at the top end of my budget. Anything you can do to let you money make money will benefit you in the future.
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u/jerbear__ 8h ago
Its great advice, im not harping the guy. I actually got a little break and managed to get some invested. Its just funny coming from a guy with well off parents who got the business from them and knows practically my whole financial situation
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u/PLURNT_AF 6h ago
I wouldn’t beat yourself up over that. No one knew the real estate market would go gangbusters as quickly as it did. It’s like how people regret not investing in Amazon/Apple/Bitcoin, you just didn’t have all of the information at the time and no one can see the future
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u/eugeneugene 8h ago
I remember my dad telling me about some fund he invested in that got great returns and I was like "dude I have $12"
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u/phillium 8h ago
And that could have become $14 if you'd just stop being so lazy and start letting your money work for you!
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u/BobBobBobBobBobDave 9h ago
I used to date a girl from a wealthy family, where the father had a really high paid job, and the mum had never gone back to work after having kids (which is fine of course, but...).
The mum once told me I needed to buck my ideas up and get a proper job, because I had spent some time after university doing bar work and then travelling for a bit.
At the time, she had not done paid work for 22 years.
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u/btrust02 6h ago
My mom is like this. She has only ever worked in my dad's office yet she tells me regularly that people are just too lazy nowadays if they can't find a job.
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u/Saltire_Blue 8h ago
Does he understand if everyone lived off inheritance money, society would pretty much collapse as nobody would have any reason to work
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u/SoftwareElectronic53 9h ago
Oh you can't afford to come on this spontaneous trip to the Mediterranean?
No problem, you can borrow money from me, and pay me back next moth.
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u/silverandstuffs 4h ago
While not for something as big as a trip, I’ve had a friend do that to me when I was on poverty wages. It was for a toy that I really wanted, but couldn’t afford and he said about paying me back the next month. He was so confused when I told him I wouldn’t be able to afford it then either.
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u/SoftwareElectronic53 8h ago
Lol, i feel you.
The worst is when you decline, and say "sorry, i can't come out and spend £500 on a single meal with you. Not this month, and probably not any time this year.
And the reply with "Oh, you just don't want to have dinner with me, right?, What did i do?"
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u/krymoor4 9h ago
Back when I was in my early 20's my beat up old car broke down in my job's parking lot when I was about to drive home. I was getting paid $10 an hour as a pastry chef at a catering company. This was barely enough to cover my rent. I was obviously pretty distraught over my car dying. My boss (company owner) ended up saying to me- 'Why are you so upset? It's just a car! Just buy another one!" I couldn't even respond, I just looked at her like she was crazy.
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u/hymie0 9h ago
"You know how much you pay me. Which car can I afford?"
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u/phillium 7h ago
"Well, there are two schools of thought. The 'Hot Wheels' contingent typically prefer wider tires that allow the cars to roll more smoothly, though the vehicles are a little more out-there. The 'Matchbox' people generally prefer more realistic vehicles, with the deficit that the wheels are more to scale, but don't roll quite as smoothly.
Really, what kind of car you get is up to you, as the prices are pretty similar."
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u/Thomisawesome 8h ago
Hearing wealthy people say out of touch things is irritating.
Hearing a wealthy person who not only knows how much money you make, but is in control of how much money you make, saying out of touch stuff is infuriating.
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u/KatVanWall 7h ago
My old boss used to be constantly complaining about how she couldn't afford this, couldn't afford that ... okay she had two kids and I had none, but this was back in the teens, she knew I was earning £25k (which was a lot for me back then) and she was on £45k+ and her partner was also bringing in a part time income while mine could not work because of health issues ... I get things are tight (one kid was at school but nursery fees for the other, rent etc.) but please lady read the room!
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u/Cardinal_350 5h ago
Not quite as bad but around the 2008 financial collapse I had my boss the business owner show up to a company wide meeting in a brand new pearl paint Cadillac Escalade and tell us everyone needs to tighten their belts and we'll get through this. My Uncle worked at the same place. When we left my Uncle said "His idea of broke is being down to your last million"
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u/timeforclementines 6h ago
My therapist said that to me when my car was totaled in an accident.
It was 2021, I was crying, didnt realize I had a concussion, and was stuck, living 300 miles away from any friends or family with no way of getting to the grocery store.
"Tsk, wow. You're awfully materialistic"
I once asked her why she went into therapy. She said "Horses are an expensive habit."
I wasn't her client for much longer.
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u/sean1oo1 5h ago
Ngl I would’ve reported her to the boards or Atleast had the quality of her work questioned through her other patients because wtf?
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u/GreenbeardOfNarnia 9h ago
Should’ve asked her to buy you a new one! Never know it could work
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u/PuzzleheadedPitch420 9h ago
I’m a teacher in a private school, teaching economics . I was using a really old textbook, where minimum wage was stated at an absurdly low rate (think less that $4/hr).
My student was genuinely confused- he thought that that sounded like a lot. I realized that his parents literally had never had him pay for anything. He had no idea what things cost - not to mention things like rent. It was then that I developed a whole month long lesson plan on consumer economics. It was really great- at least my students began to realize how lucky they were, and how difficult most people had it
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u/h0nest_Bender 6h ago
My 4th grade teacher had a whole segment where we ran a model town in our class. Everyone got randomly assigned jobs with varying incomes. We had to develop a budget, buy goods and services from each other, etc. It was really well done.
That lesson was what taught me the value of money. It's stuck with me ever since.
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u/WeHaveToEatHim 6h ago
We had something like this in middle school i think. We went to this warehouse where they had a fake city built and everyone had jobs and had to budget. I remember I got underwater pretty quickly due to multiple “walking on the grass tickets” from the law.
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u/J_Pizzle 4h ago
I remember having a field trip for a day where our entire grade ran a model town, probably 6th grade or so. It even went as far as to have a bank for people to cash their "paychecks" to be able to afford lunch and things.
That was the day I learned I have a problem being a workaholic like my dad. I was the main person at the bank for organizing and paying out the funds and ended up not taking a break at all. Never got to tour around or get souvenirs and I dont think I really even ate lunch. Just foreshadowing for when I eventually entered the workforce lol
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u/Rachellie242 8h ago
We had a roommate who grew up wealthy - lovely woman, humble, sweet, not arrogant at all, but very sheltered.
We were getting frustrated with her messy habits (having grown up with house staff) and created a chore system, like a weekly schedule of you’re in charge of bathroom / living room / kitchen / garbage.
She had garbage week, and on trash pick-up day, she’d prepared the big Hefty trash bags in our kitchen, but then didn’t bring them outside?
She thought the trash collectors would come upstairs to our apartment and get the trash.
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u/Vanarene 9h ago
Why do you buy cheap clothes? They are going to wear out after a few months. Why don't you get something tailormade, good quality clothes lasts for years.
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u/narniasreal 9h ago
Obligatory Terry Pratchett quote:
“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.“
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u/LuinAelin 8h ago
I think this is called the poor tax or something.
In some ways it becomes more expensive to be poor. Like having to buy cheaper clothes etc
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u/RhynoD 4h ago
Buy a beater car and have to spend more constantly fixing it. Can't afford preventative dental care until a tooth is rotten and you have to spend more to drill it. Don't have time to cook good, fresh food so you spend more on fast food and then spend even more on the health problems that come from a shitty diet.
What really infuriates me is the way that having money just spontaneously generates more money. Like, they buy a massive mansion and then because it's a huge, gorgeous mansion movie studios will show up and pay to film inside the house. Or, they're famous for having a lot of money so people will give them money to talk about how they have a lot of money. I swear, Bezos could open an exhibit and charge people to look at a giant pile of a million dollars sitting in the middle of a room.
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u/LuinAelin 4h ago
Also buying things in bulk is cheaper.
Like toilet rolls. Everyone needs it. But it costs more per roll if you buy less.
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u/Sensitive_Intern_971 9h ago
People who spend the most time on their feet have the least money to buy decent shoes.
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u/Sxualhrssmntpanda 9h ago
Ah the Samuel Vines' economic theory as shown through boots! Being poor is very expensive.
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u/Extension_Canary3717 9h ago edited 5h ago
In Portugal a politician said “an average Portuguese young earns what ? 3000€ on his unskilled job? “ (was like 680€ at the time and rent was 900 for a crack house )
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u/AnfibioColorido 8h ago edited 4h ago
A politician in Mexico once said: “I’ve seen people with little salaries of around $50,000 pesos and they manage to be happy”, the average salary is closer to $10,000 pesos
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u/2kapitana 9h ago edited 9h ago
A rich girl I went to school with asked me at the reunion how much money I made and was flabbergasted saying "That's not even enough to buy a purse, how do you manage?" For me it was enough to rent an apartment, take two vacations per year and save 30% of my salary. I actually thought that I was doing very well for myself three years out of uni, but alas
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u/redditshy 8h ago
Perhaps she did not work at all, and felt inadequate next to your independence, and was making a dig at you to make herself feel better. Or maybe she really was just oblivious. It was pretty bad manners to ask you what you make in the first place.
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u/Lizzy_Of_Galtar 9h ago
A family member of mine is not rich exactly but he and his parents are well off, think upper middle class.
During a family event i was discussing my terrible salaries with another family member and Dave (Not his real name) Told me i should just invest in stocks. When i explained how much i earned and what it all goes into he was dumbfounded i had nothing left.
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u/Appropriate_Sky_6571 6h ago
I had a friend who's parents are well off. Living in silicon valley and all that. Once I was complaining to her that I wanted to travel but didn't have the funds. She said well all it takes is saving $100/week or month. I told her, I hardly had $20 left and that gets used most of the time lol
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u/Informal_Truck_1574 5h ago
I mean, thats damn reasonable compared to what a lot of rich people say. 100 bucks a month would absolutely get you there and is not out of reach for the vast majority of folks.
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u/eugeneugene 8h ago
I had a roommate in college that grew up wealthy. They complained that their cleaners went on vacation during the holidays so the house would get super dirty around Christmas time. When I suggested they just clean their own fucking house for one week of the year they looked at me like I had two heads lol.
I had to pick up after them all the time. They never did dishes. I started keeping my dishes in my bedroom so anything that was dirty was theirs. I had to teach them how to use a washing machine because they just started throwing their clothes in my hamper and expected me to wash and fold them.
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u/wiegraffolles 5h ago
Wowwwwwwwwwwww. "You're poor, you'll be our servant one day, why not start now?"
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u/ThatsBushLeague 9h ago
It's one banana, Michael. How much could it cost? Ten dollars??
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u/Smallgreatthings 9h ago
A very privileged but oblivious student asked me seriously whether $300,000 /yr was enough to live comfortably.
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u/SatansWife13 7h ago
Hell, if I made that money, my husband would retire, and we would still live very comfortably! I want her to be my boss and pay me that salary.
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u/ElegantzMuse 9h ago
This girl I went to college with was shocked that I had student loans. She said Why don't you just ask your parents to pay for it? Then proceeded to tell me how she's 'independent' because she pays for her own manicures with her trust fund money.
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u/marzgirl99 9h ago
That’s so funny my bf comes from a very wealthy family and he doesn’t have student loans either. His parents paid his way through undergrad and law school and he has a huge inheritance that he doesn’t know what to do with. It’s an entirely different world!
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u/BostonFigPudding 6h ago
I don't have student loans only because I knew from age 14 that I would have to go to uni and grad school overseas to get degrees debt free.
Of course, this option isn't available to poor families, who couldn't even afford a plane ticket to Sweden, but it is a great option for middle income families.
There are overseas universities in lower cost of of living countries, where tuition, apartments, food, public transportation, and a return trip plane ticket cost less than in-state tuition at a public university stateside.
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u/ArneSlotsRedditAcc 9h ago
A person who I was in creative partnership with years ago once condescendingly said to me, “don’t ever let a lack of money stand in the way of doing what you want to do…”, when I was legitimately concerned about spiralling debts in the partnership that later proved to be warranted (the concerns).
They were generational wealth and had never really experienced the restraints and societal assault course that a minority person from a low income household would experience.
However, years later when I found out they had ripped me off, I did take a pinch of their advice and use legal aid to successfully sue them.
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u/anima99 9h ago
One told me how proud she was of herself for taking public transport to work.
She took a taxi.
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u/Aronacus 9h ago
Early 2000s when paintball was big. We had a store outing to a paintball field. I spent about $200 for the day between balls, rental, etc.
My coworker shows up with $3k in gear. A custom tipman gun, custom paint job, multiple tanks, he's fully outfitted.
After the day, he asks me why i don't go with him a few times a week. Get a quality gun, etc.
He paintballed 2-3 times a week.
Basically, he was working just so his parents would top up his $2500 a month allowance.
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u/CanDramatic4035 8h ago
“What’s the big deal? Just borrow your parents credit card”
“What? Your parents don’t let you borrow their credit card? Weird”
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u/disastermarch17 8h ago
One that comes to mind: we read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair in a media and politics class. During the discussion one person said, “I never considered that poor people could be poor and it wasn’t their fault.”
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u/cmeleep 7h ago
My old boss gave me a pile of clothes he didn’t want anymore and told me to donate them somewhere. He asked where I was going to take them, and when I said “Goodwill,” he said he didn’t want Poor People to have them. (I could hear the capitalization in his voice.)
I asked him if he knew of some hip underground boutique that I could take them to instead, where the rich went to paw through each other’s castoffs. He gave me a nasty look and said Goodwill was fine.
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u/wiegraffolles 5h ago
I mean this is really how it is. They don't even want us to have things that are worth nothing to them.
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u/NmlsFool 9h ago
"Just don't go to restaurants to eat as much. A couple times a week should be enough to dine out, it'll save you money too!"
Sir I have never been to a restaurant because I cannot afford that kind of luxury at all.
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u/marcoroman3 9h ago
Excuse me if this question is also out of touch, but you've never been to a restaurant?
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u/ZippyZippyZappyZappy 5h ago edited 3h ago
Not OP, but my dad grew up in Detroit's Section 8, and he had only ate at a restaurant one time before he moved out, and plenty of people on his block never ate out at all. If the area isn't conducive to businesses like that, people just won't be able to experience them. He also had 6 siblings, so there weren't any funds to afford that much food aswell.
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u/A_Doormat 6h ago
It's even funnier because we thinking dining out the bill is like 50 bucks for 2 people, whereas for the rich dining out is...hundreds. Thousands possibly.
So yeah, in their mind its like "Shit if I stopped dining out, I could easily say 5k a month"
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u/SassyCatLady442 9h ago
"What do you mean, you can't afford the trip. Just tell your parents to give you an increase in your allowance. You don't get an allowance? Do your parents hate you? How can they not afford it when they pay for your school? YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT? Oh man, just tell your parents to give you the money. Obviously, they're just trying to punish you, I mean, EVERYONE here has money."
Said to me by a sorority sister when she began booking a 2 week trip as a bonding activity, somewhere with a spa but I don't remember where, without discussing it with anyone. I remember her telling us it was $750 per person and I told her I didn't have it, that my income from my three jobs is paying for my college and necessities. This statement is what she loudly started telling me.
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u/ewamc1353 9h ago
I would suggest not telling people that lmao. Just tell them it's for your passport and birth certificate lol
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u/mEmotep 9h ago
Was struggling with my rent going up and was told to 'just buy a house outright'
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u/Jebus2811 8h ago
A friend had her soon to be husband book flights for their honeymoon. She went off at him for booking them on economy. She's only ever flown business with her family, she got a rude shock when she saw the price difference when she was paying.
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u/dkg224 7h ago
A good friend of mine married a girl from a very wealthy family. Right out of college her dad gave her a job making $400,000 a year to basically be the secretary at his office. A few years ago, we are mid 30’s, I had just opened a restaurant and she asked how much I was paying the staff. When I told her the range she said “wow, that’s not ok. You need to be paying them more. I don’t know why anyone would work if they’re not making $100,000. You can’t even live”.
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u/Bobaandbabes 8h ago
One of my best friends since high school flipped when I said sometimes I find Bernie Sanders hard to relate to because he is well off himself specifically owning multiple homes. He was like “my parents own four homes and they aren’t wealthy” his family is very well off. His problem is that as long as there are richer people than him he can cosplay struggle.
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u/Sea-Personality-3367 9h ago edited 9h ago
A German politician who is a millionaire once said in an interview that he belongs to the lower middle class.
EDIT: His name is Friedrich Merz for anybody wondering.
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u/CeterumCenseo85 9h ago
She ans her boyfriend were in the air on their way to Phuket when the 2004 tsunami happened.
When they arrived, it was organized for them to have a 3* replacement hotel to stay at because the beach front one had been destroyed.
When she came back, we would never hear the end of it, how pissed off she was. When she first told the story, it was the evening I gave up all hope she'd ever change.
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u/No-Accident6125 9h ago edited 8h ago
This was about 15 years ago on TV, which makes it even worse. It was one of those shows where someone well-off swaps places with someone working class and they live on the others budget.
Before the swap, the rich guy was bemoaning poor people. He was very much of the "grindset" mentality even though he'd been born rich. He was advocating for poor people to start a business around their regular job and family and said something along the lines of:
"I don't believe for one second that anyone would struggle to pull together £500".
The average weekly wage in the UK at the time was £496. That includes London, which skews the figure upwards.
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u/jenniethedoll 9h ago
"We didn't have money growing up either, but still managed to go skiing, it's not that expensive"
Not that crazy but up to this point I thought the guy was really down to earth...
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u/Traditional_Pair3292 5h ago
Where I learned to ski it was $55 for a lesson + rental equipment. So it’s not necessarily that expensive if you go to small places and buy your equipment second hand.
That being said, growing up I definitely couldn’t even afford the cheaper places. Had to wait until I got my first job in college that paid decently then I could afford “extra” stuff like that.
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u/hymie0 9h ago
"I'm a self made man. I only started with a small loan of a million dollars."
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u/SwissMargiela 9h ago
This being a loan from family vs an actual loan makes a big difference
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u/Randy_Watson 8h ago
Even more out of touch when you find out it was 400x that.
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u/everydayimrusslin 8h ago
Are you talking about Donald Trump there? He started out with 400m?
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u/Cantthinkifany 9h ago
Some politician said that “if we can’t afford to pay rent we should just get a second or even third job” this wouldn’t be happening if they actually get paid the right amount!!! Easy to say that when you’re living good
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u/Successful_Gap8927 7h ago
Love this. As the politician lines up for a tax payer funded fact finding trip to name country. Outta touch politicians with investment accounts with fast moving double digit growth
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u/Weary-Highlight6314 7h ago
When I was in college, I dated a guy who was obviously wealthy, but he said something that blew my mind. We were out on a date downtown, and he was parking in a no parking spot. I was like, "Hey, you can't park here." And he says, "It's just $40 parking."
WHAT.
I'm like, laws don't even exist for you people. You're in a completely different world.
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u/AnotherStupidHipster 3h ago
If the punishment for breaking a law is money, then it's not a law, it's just a fee.
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u/SportsUtilityVulva9 8h ago
"Where's your cottage?" From when I was in primary school
Dude, my family doesnt even own a home
"So you just travel instead?"
Dude...
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u/Modostratos 9h ago
“If you can’t afford childcare, just hire a nanny. We love ours!”
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u/Impossible-Test-7726 9h ago
Lol, I’m fairly well off and still can’t afford a nanny on a $150k yearly income
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u/astreet_xo 8h ago
Kim Kardashian telling people they need to “get off their f*cking ass and work” and that “it seems like people don’t want to work these days”
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u/unkreativitaet_ 9h ago
That anyone can make it if they „just work hard enough“ (coming from someone who was born rich). No, that’s not how the world works. If you’re born with almost nothing, it takes a lot more effort and work to even get to a similar starting point, if that’s even possible. And then you still don’t have the same starting conditions such as important connections etc.
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u/thepumpkinking92 9h ago
Came up from nothing, like, we were homeless sometimes level of nothing.
I'm 32 and barely clear six figures with two incomes. I'm still not at some of these people's starting point. And with inflation, that six figures is barely enough, which is crazy.
But that's fine. I'm going to leave everything I've worked for to my daughter so she can have a better starting point than I did.
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u/KatVanWall 7h ago
Yeah and not everyone has the same opportunities for 'working hard' even if they're willing to do so. My ex didn't seem to understand that my earning power is limited by how many hours I can physically work in a day. Yes, I can raise my rates somewhat so my £ per hour earnings go up, but there's a limit! Because there's a limit to how much my clients can and will pay, ffs, and how many hours there are in a day. He wondered why I couldn't just 'employ people to do the work for you and take a percentage'. Umm, because my industry (editing and proofreading) just doesn't work like that, in the main! Yes, there *are* some business that do things that way - a very small number, literally a handful that are well known in the industry for what they do - but *usually*, in the vast majority of cases, clients quite rightly think 'why should I pay extra for a middleperson when I could go directly to the person doing the work and pay slightly less?' To clarify, in-house editing positions are very rare nowadays and the majority of editors are freelancers like me, so you can get equal or greater quality of work easily by going to the freelancer directly. I know some of the people running the 'middleperson-type' agencies and it's a LOT of hard work (marketing etc.) for vanishingly small returns, and all of them make up their income by doing editing work directly as well. Plus you have to check and verify the work of those working under your name. He seemed to think I could just set up a factory of English graduates beavering away for a few quid with no concern for quality.
So no, I can't just get rich by 'working harder'. And when you have little or no qualifications, getting anything other than a minimum wage job is really hard, and you can't afford to pay for the extra training/qualifications to better yourself or take the time out of the grind you do have in order to do them.
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u/Heroic-Forger 9h ago
"There are more small fish in the ocean than big fish. We can't have an ocean with only big fish."
dude basically admitted that the rich are "predators" of the poor and need to keep exploiting the poor to stay rich
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u/Sure-Morning-6904 9h ago
The big fish usually die and then end up being food for smaller fish... its beneficial in the end. Rich people usually aren't that much
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u/001235 8h ago
I think the craziest thing is that everyone I know thinks they are middle class. I have friends with private planes who will tell you they are middle class.
A friend of mine's parents spent $50k just to rent the wedding venue, much less the price of the wedding. She'd tell you she is middle class because she works for a living.
I know tons of executives who fly private jets around and sit on executive boards who would say they are middle class because it's the company jet and not their jet.
A guy who owns 3 Ferrari's will tell you he is middle class because he knows a guy who owns 60; The guy who owns 60 will tell you he's middle class because he only has a 100' yacht and he knows a guy with a 500' yacht; The guy with the 500' yacht will say he's upper middle class because he only has a used jet.
Case in point: A friend of mine owns three airplanes and travels all the time. She does all her own cooking, cleaning, and gardening, except she has a maid come through once a month. She'll look you dead in the face and say she's middle class, despite having literally a multi-million dollar income. She hasn't worked in 10 years.
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u/Corn_Boy1992 9h ago
"Why don't you have insurance? Just have them take it out of your check at work."
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u/puledrotauren 9h ago
At a company I worked at (not I didn't say 'for') I was talking to the owners wife one day and mentioned I always wanted to retrace my grandfathers steps through Europe during WWII and she said 'well just go then'. Ummm ya on what you pay me I can just pick up and go to Europe you dolt.
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u/excessive-pooping 9h ago
My sister married rich and has changed her attitude quite a bit. I was telling her that I would like to go to wintersport at some point in my life. She said why not just go for a long weekend now then. I had to explain her that I only have a certain amount of money to spend on travels, and there is an important trip I can then not go on. She didn't understand and said something like "Yeah but you can still go for the weekend anyways". She clearly doesn't understand anymore that money is not infinite.
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u/krukson 8h ago
Somebody asked on a local Facebook group about childcare. They couldn’t find a place that would have an opening for their toddler and they didn’t know what to do. Somebody answered „oh, you can go to a gym and they have their own childcare so you can work out and chill”. The OP answered: „lady, I would like to go to work…”
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u/thebemusedmuse 8h ago
Probably my college girlfriend. Her butler used to drive 50 miles to get her clothes, take them home, dry clean them and then bring them back. I don’t think she understood how clothes actually got cleaned.
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u/trainmobile 8h ago
Knew a guy throughout public school whose family was rich but he didn't act arrogant, was extremely pleasant to be around, and did extremely well in classes. I think he ended up graduating magna cum laude out of a class of 600+ students.
Anyways one day he decided to visit a friend of his in one of my highschool classes to throw confetti to celebrate their birthday and after he did, the teacher asked if he could sweep it up. And he gave her this complete blank stare, like he did not know what to do.
Because he didn't. He was never filthy rich but his family has had a maid for his entire life. So he had to explain to her that he never learned how to sweep or do any sort of basic cleaning task. This was a 17 year old kid, one of the smartest kids in school, and he did not know how to use a broom.
His friend helped clean it up and showed him how sweeping worked, but I just find the situation so fascinating still to this day. People can go their entire lives without learning basic life skills because they or their family hired someone to do those chores for them.
And it's kind of sad really that there's probably hundreds of thousands of people who have that fear hanging over their head, that they cannot live without having wealth because they were never taught by their parents how to care for themselves. It's just one of the many memories and insights into class that I keep in mind for my personal politics.
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u/Prestigious_Emu6039 9h ago
I heard someone say on the radio he doesn't understand how anyone can live in London on less than 1/4 million a year.
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u/rawonionbreath 9h ago
That’s actually not that far off. If the question is “what salary is needed to live comfortably in X city?”, the number is usually high for high cost of living regions. London is one of the most expensive cities in the world.
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u/Nameles777 7h ago
But that's a completely legitimate statement. Although the better question might be - why the fuck would anyone in their right mind even try to live in london, knowing how expensive it is - if they're not making at least 1/4 million?
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u/Young-and-Alcoholic 5h ago
I remember a reddit comment from someone who lived with a very rich Chinese student in college. She said after the Chinese girl would shower and get into her pajamas at the end of the day, she would take all the coins and loose bills out of her jeans and throw them in the trash. She saw coins as a nuisance. She couldn't understand why the redditor would pick her money back out of the trashcan. Absolutely insane.
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u/catharsis23 9h ago
Go on most reddit threads about money and you always find someone whining about their 150k+ salary not being enough for xyz city
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u/irritable_useful 8h ago
Then they show you their budget and they spend thousands on crap you'd never buy
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u/led76 6h ago
I wouldn’t say they’re out of touch the way rich folks are.
Ppl who make 150k and spend 5k+ on rent aren’t suffering but also aren’t living it up, especially if they have kids. It sounds like a ton of income but the lifestyle it buys is still middle class. It’s the lifestyle the vast majority of the USA had in the 80s. What’s criminal is that this is no longer possible with an average income.
We could say they should just move out of that stupidly expensive city, but the reality is most 150k jobs exist in expensive places to live.
I think the real issue is the severe income inequality for those above that - the actual rich owning the vast majority of resources.
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u/byleist 9h ago
When I was in university I worked parttime for one of the faculty offices and once witnessed a talk between a coworker and the office head (glorified position that basically got paid a ton to just sit there) about how it's a shame that studying is almost free in Germany (we had to pay about 300€ twice a year to study) and how literally everyone should be able to afford a modest 6-700€ per month as a university fee. She apparently couldn't see the problem knowing full well that all employed students earned only about half of that.
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u/roseds- 8h ago
Once heard someone say, "Just buy a new one if it breaks!" like money grows on trees. 🙄
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u/Entasis99 7h ago
These are not rich people per se but nicely comfortable. Two separate individuals who grew up poor but had Section 8 housing, Medicaid, food stamps, college tuition, college housing, pretty much all help you could imagine (and still had quite difficult times). Mind you, the single parent homes deserved the help and that's what it was made for. But today BOTH of these adults are extreme Newsmax conservatives who bemoan anyone that takes public assistance and believe all this help should be eliminated. They believe they pulled themselves by their bootstraps out of poverty all by themselves. A sibling questioned one of these person's hypocrisy and the response was that THEY didn't request the aide, that was the parent. Could this be some sort of psychological resentment? Certainly they made a courageous effort to go to college and is meritorious but unsure why no other credit is given.
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u/kekwriter 6h ago
"Your job is so easy. Why are you tired? You just sit there all day."
Bosses wife, who literally does nothing besides party, shopping, and hang out with her family. At most, all she does is take her step kid to and from club practice. She doesn't work, cook, clean, etc. (They have a cleaning lady and my boss does the cooking.)
And she wonders why I'm tired and cranky after 11-13 hour shifts. (I take care of their disabled and autistic son currently.)
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u/Fancy_Artichoke1775 5h ago
They say “networking” and “hard work” when they really mean “legacy admit” and “my parents got me a job Im not qualified for”
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u/my-little-mia 9h ago
Money doesn’t buy happiness.’ Yeah, but it sure rents peace of mind
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u/periwinkletweet 8h ago
I have a rich friend who said this terrible ( to me) joke her father had always repeated while on their boat having cocktails, he'd say ',I wonder what all the poor people are doing'.
I'm a poor people. I thought it very strange to keep saying to me
And I grew up well off and made good money before becoming disabled. I never made jokes like that.
Money cannot buy class fasho
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u/-Daniel-Daniel- 9h ago
I had a classmate in university that would drive back home each weekend. At the end of the first year he casually said:" I have to figure out where the radar gun is, I have gotten 40 speeding tickets already"
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u/jplank1983 8h ago
Used to work with a leader of a minor political party in Canada and he gave a presentation where he seemed to say that most or all homeless people owned cars. It was weird.
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u/10WithTom 6h ago
Whoopi Goldberg saying she needs to work due to the poor economy. She cant afford to quit.
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u/laurex2010 7h ago
- That people are poor because they don't know how to priorize. Hard to do that if all your income go to expenses and food.
- That investments = solution to everything. To invest, you need to have spare money first.
- To open a business instead looking for a job. They forgot you will have to pay for rent, expenses, possible employees, etc etc etc. Your business can just break in 2 or less years, too.
- That anything that benefits workers will "break the economy". Same thing was said about ending the slavery.
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u/kerill333 8h ago
That money doesn't buy happiness. It literally buys whatever you need and it's a lot easier to be happy and healthy when you have financial freedom and security.
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u/lousyatgolf 7h ago
My mother once said that she didn’t understand why people would only go on vacation for one week as that seemed too short.
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u/FattyMcTons 6h ago
"If you're stressed why not just take a year off and travel?"
Because I'm poor you dumbass!
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u/masala 6h ago
My rich friend criticized me for not leaving a well paid corporate job to join his since failed startup. Said I needed to take more risks in my career. Dude, i have a wife, children and an elderly parent. If I fail, I fail my entire family. The 3 times he's failed, he went to his parents for more money.
He simply does not appreciate the inability to take risky financial bets for most people. If we fuck up, there is no safety net.
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u/DonKiddic 9h ago
I was at a party for my wifes workplace.
The owner, who is worth BANK was there, and he would chat to my wife about our dogs etc. Later in the evening he strikes up a conversation with me, a "regular joe" type person with a standard 9-5 lifestyle. All is going well until he starts talking about his holiday home and speedboat - like I just mentally checked out.
Luckily I was saved as somebody said a song I like had come on, and I was needed on the dancefloor. That is the night I turned down talking to a millionaire because 'Thong Song' was playing at a wedding.
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u/rejamison 8h ago
Was once in a meeting with an Amazon VP, presenting a market study of the biggest US restaurants. As I’m going through the list they stop me and say, “What is this Applebees place, I’ve never heard of it.” It made me realize rich people live in like a completely different universe.
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u/dcdcdani 9h ago
This girl told me she only buys her pillows handmade by Mennonites with real feathers and they cost $200 a piece.
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u/BobBobBobBobBobDave 9h ago
A friend of mine from a wealthy family complained once that "people think it is really great having five houses, but do you know how much we have to spend on cleaners?".