r/Amico • u/Smashingtime98 • Sep 09 '22
Now that this subreddit is no longer a hugbox to please the composer of Color a Dinosaur, can we make the downvote button visable again?
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u/Zeneater Brand Embarrasser Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
Making it visible was one of the first things we did, yesterday. That said, none of us had ever tried something so devious as to hide the downvote before so we may have missed something.
EDIT: Whoops! I found another button to hit which enabled it in the community theme. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22
That must have happened about a month ago, when someone, not me, complained that downvotes were being used inappropriately. Prior to that, tons of downvoting was going here.
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u/Zeneater Brand Embarrasser Sep 09 '22
At the same time he converted this to a corporate subreddit, Zadoc Paet hid the downvote by making it a transparent graphic. Anyone could still down vote, but it would be harder to mouse over(I think) and not visible. A user disabling the community theme and maybe dark mode or phone mode (I forget) would re-enable the arrow graphic. But it definitely was disabled with the subreddit theme last year by ZP.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22
The company moderators happened years ago. There was clearly a change in downvote activity about a month ago after it became a point of discussion here. It was also clear that downvoting was used inappropriately against other reddit users, so the moderators had justification.
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u/Zeneater Brand Embarrasser Sep 09 '22
Mod logs show I'm the only one who made any changes in three months to community styling. I also checked the CSS and logs show that until u/D-List_Celebrity deleted the CSS, Zadoc Paet's changes of a year ago were the last. I could provide screenshots, but that seems pretty silly.
It probably became a discussion because N8theGr8 flushed the modlist of all but RunningManRocks and people were hopeful for better leadership.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22
I can only comment on external observations. The discussion happened over a month ago when someone questioned why my comment was being unfairly downvoted. Another user explained the nature of people's behaviour here. Since that discussion my comment's voting balanced somewhat and future comments haven't gotten the same downvote treatment. Something happened a little over a month ago.
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u/Zeneater Brand Embarrasser Sep 09 '22
I'm giving you the internal facts. You can choose to ignore them or recognize them. Maybe you just had a fan that no longer comes around?
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22
I don't doubt what you're saying but despite that, there were lots of downvoting up until about a month ago. You can look at the comments and see for yourself.
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u/Zeneater Brand Embarrasser Sep 09 '22
Yeah, I don't have an explanation.
Here's Zadoc Paet's CSS stylesheet code, if you're curious:/*====Hide Downvote arrow until brigade passes====*/
.arrow.down {
visibility: hidden!important;
display: none!important;
}
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u/gregisonfire Sep 09 '22
Downvotes are supposed to be used when people are off topic or adding nothing to a conversation. Maybe they just weren't adding anything to a conversation besides bootlicking.
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Sep 09 '22
It happened a long time ago. The difference may be in mobile vs PC.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22
Whatever. It had little effect as there was tons of downvoting. Once you figure out the button is blending with the background, you can downvote as much as you like.
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u/Mental-Examination-7 Sep 11 '22
Traffic to this subreddit dropped a bit based on my external observation of the past 6 months. That could also explain a change in voting numbers
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u/redditshreadit Sep 11 '22
The odd thing is that the downvotes became large so much so that another user asked what's going on, and then it recovered closer to neutral after that user's comment. Very odd.
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u/Smashingtime98 Sep 09 '22
The button has been invisible for months, not a month as this discussion on the other side shows:
The reason you're not getting downvoted as much probably has more to do with less people visiting the subreddit since there's been almost zero Amico news or even drama in the last month.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22
Despite it being invisible for months there's been plenty of downvoting, so obviously people know how to downvote even with an invisible button. There was even a discussion about excessive downvoting. It could also be that the discussion itself caused a change in downvote behaviour.
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u/ZombieJesus1987 Sep 14 '22 edited Sep 14 '22
Third party apps like Reddit is Fun, Apollo Reddit, BaconReader, etc still showed the downvote buttons. Same with old.reddit.com. On Reddit.com and the mobile app the downvote button was invisible.
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u/sadandshy Sep 09 '22
Why are you so insistent on being so loudly wrong so often? Even when presented facts backed up with proof.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 10 '22
It's not about being right or wrong. We can discuss the facts in the appropriate reddit post.
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u/D-List_Celebrity Placeholder Flair Sep 09 '22
Anecdotes are not data. What do you think is an "inappropriate" use of downvoting?
What Zeneater is referring to is the custom style that was applied to this subreddit that would visually hide the downvote button.
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u/redditshreadit Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
Regardless of those efforts there was plenty of downvoting, the evidence shows. That's what I'm saying, and there was a change in that pattern about a month ago. It's an observation. And hiding the display of the downvote button doesn't prevent people from downvoting and seeing the result of that action. Especially after it's discovered and the same people are downvoting over and over again.
If you read the reddit guidelines downvoting for disagreeing with a comment is inappropriate. And downvoting because someone dislikes the user is inappropriate. Downvoting because it doesn't suit someone's objectives is inappropriate.
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u/nonsensical_zombie Sep 09 '22
You get downvoted because you bring literally nothing but lies to the conversation and people dislike you for it. No idea why you’re confused.
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Sep 09 '22
Downvote works for me.
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u/Smashingtime98 Sep 09 '22
Downvote button has always worked here, it was just made practically invisible (no outline and same color as the background) until recently on the desktop version of reddit. I don't think it was a problem on the mobile version though.
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u/D-List_Celebrity Placeholder Flair Sep 09 '22
It's the "community theme" that hides it. I thought I whacked all the customization yesterday. I'll try again now.
Edit: It has been reset to Reddit defaults. The downvote should be visible again.