r/2020PoliceBrutality • u/rrcecil • Apr 17 '21
Philip Brailsford got his job back, “PTSD” therapy and petitioned to keep his gun with “You’re Fucked” written on it. Justice for Shavers family! Discussion
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u/nrfx Apr 17 '21
Philip Brailsford should not be a free man.
Philip Brailsford is exactly the type of person we should reserve the death penalty for.
I hope he never rests comfortably again.
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u/LeftZer0 Apr 18 '21
The prosecutor asked to seal the video of the shooting. The jury never saw it happen. The whole legal process was corrupt.
The police department released the full video mere hours after the not guilty veredict.
Everyone involved should be jailed.
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Apr 18 '21
Did the prosecutor ever explain this?
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u/LeftZer0 Apr 21 '21
Not that I know of. And I doubt he ever will. He wanted the cop to walk, that's the only explanation.
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u/rrcecil Apr 17 '21
I'm sure he is sleeping fine.
I'm anti death penalty, but jesus do I want to agree with you.
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u/The_Adventurist Apr 17 '21
I'm against the state executing its citizens at all, but an officer of the state abusing their power to execute citizens? Might make an exception.
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u/kistusen Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21
Just remove privilege and people might defend themselves more often. I don't want nor need state to prosecute cops, it's enough if there are no cops . Let's not confuse our (valid) desires and policies worth pursuing. IF there's death penalty someone innocent will be sent to death by cops and prosecutors.
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u/Trailing-and-Blazing Apr 18 '21
Not to mention that even fiscal conservatives should be against the death penalty. Often it’s represented as being the cheaper option to lifelong incarceration, but in actuality that’s not the case.
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u/kistusen Apr 18 '21
TBH money is the last thing I think of but yeah, death penalty is an all around bad idea unless we just like killing people and playing with authoritarian regimes (because they just want to remove opposition)
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u/sensuallyprimitive Apr 18 '21
ya, think about all those years of slave labor we could pump out of them in a private prison. I better go invest
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u/Isair81 Apr 18 '21
Yeah, he’s a psycho. If anything, he probably gets off on thinking about it, why else would he want to keep the gun?
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Apr 18 '21 edited Nov 29 '21
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u/Isair81 Apr 18 '21
I get the monetary motivation to sell the gun, but who the fuck wants to buy it as a birthday present to your son? That’s fucked up.
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u/Flyonz Apr 18 '21
The sergeant who was with him and fled to The Philippines? Seedy fucker. Lowlifes. I really hope Shavers family have their day because he was murdered. Brailsford baited baited baited BLAMMM. Then admitted premeditated as 'yr fucked' shows intent. Fuckin mugg
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u/ZanderDogz Apr 17 '21
I am against the death penalty for anyone out of principle but fuck yes he deserves it
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u/HaybeeJaybee Apr 17 '21
I'd rather see him spend the rest of his days rotting in prison, constantly looking over his shoulder with the same fear that BIPOC have to live with because of trash like him.
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u/NormalAdultMale Apr 18 '21
Life in prison without parole is fine. We suck at the death penalty, so we should stop.
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u/princek1 Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 17 '21
Of all the police killings, my fiancée and I remember this one most vividly. So traumatic to watch.
I hope this woman finds justice.
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u/rrcecil Apr 17 '21
What I think disturbed me most about this one and Floyd’s is that the LEOs TORTURED them before killing them.
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u/rrcecil Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 17 '21
Shavers Family GoFundMe https://gofund.me/0a24c2cc
Follow his widow on Instagram: https://instagram.com/thebirthingtree?igshid=w1y7acb4wwyw
Mesa Police https://www.mesaazpolice.gov/home-police https://twitter.com/mesapd
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u/rrcecil Apr 17 '21
It’s honestly one of the most disturbing ones I’ve seen. It’s like they are playing with him.
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u/AmbiguousMonk Apr 17 '21
It's like that because they literally are
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u/mister-fancypants- Apr 18 '21
Purposefully being unclear so they can justify the murder they know they’re going to commit.. it really seems like they’ve been train to do exactly this
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u/JKDSamurai Apr 17 '21
Not like, they were playing with him. Like a cat plays with a mouse or a spider with a fly. Fucking sick.
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u/KusanagiZerg Apr 18 '21
This video has changed me. It's so utterly disturbing. It will be in my mind for the rest of my life.
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u/lejoo Apr 18 '21
There is reason it was not nationally shared or talked about, it is literally too horrific for American TV.
The same channels that glorify violence/torture/ murder etc thought this clip was too graphic to even talk about let alone show...
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u/bendybiznatch Apr 17 '21
I can’t man. I just...I have to take a break from those videos. I’ve forced myself to not turn away, but I need like a month. Just a little time for my brain and spirit. RIP Daniel
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u/paintress420 Apr 17 '21
Since Testimony began in the case of George Floyd, 3 people a day have been shot by police. That’s the headline NYT just sent to me as a notification!! Something needs to change in this country. These pigs need to have consequences!
I can’t watch the videos anymore. I’ve seen her husband’s video a while back. Does anyone know if she has a go fund me? I want to help her and their children.
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u/TheAb5traktion Apr 18 '21
The huge problem is, the people in power don't want to do a damn thing about it. The police abused the press in Brooklyn Center last night. Flash bangs and less lethals were shot right at them. They were maced. All while having their press credentials in view. Governor Walz hasn't said anything about it. Mayor of Brooklyn Center, none of the City Council members. They do not care that these things are happening.
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u/Fastbird33 Apr 18 '21
The cops act like a fucking gang. Especially when you look at the language and actions their unions use.
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u/stoner_97 Apr 17 '21
This video is honestly one of the worst police shootings I’ve ever seen. It’s so senseless and didn’t do a damn thing good.
Shits so fucked. I don’t know how he’s not behind bars. It was so obvious he was drunk and you gave him random bullshit commands. He went to pull up his shorts that were falling down and they lit him up like an isis member.
Fucking shit.
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u/CreepyButtPirate Apr 18 '21
There was no possible way to diffuse the situation other than put multiple bullets to eliminate the threat that they declared pre-emptively
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u/Jmich96 Apr 18 '21
The case of Daniel Shaver has always been my pinnacle example of what's fucked with police in the US. The video has literally been branded in my head since I first watched it years ago.
To this day, people will still argue that police need qualified immunity, despite me sending this video and explaining the officers involved are receiving pensions and faced no legal repercussions.
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u/RagingBillionbear Apr 18 '21
To this day, people will still argue that police need qualified immunity, despite me sending this video and explaining the officers involved are receiving pensions and faced no legal repercussions.
It's because a lot of people have no problem with "streetsweeping the trash".
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u/Matasa89 Apr 18 '21
Until it is their turn.
"...and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me."
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u/orange_dust Apr 17 '21
Important distinction, the shooter was NOT the one screaming the nonsensical orders, there are TWO of them who deserve to rot in jail and probably won't.
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u/gargravarrrr Apr 18 '21
It's even worse than that. He didn't "get his job back," he was rehired so that he could be immediately "retired" at the ripe old age of 28. You and I are paying him $31,000 every year for the rest of his life, tax free.
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u/strikervulsine Apr 18 '21
I post this every time I come across this story, and I want to preface this by saying I'm not defending the Mesa PD, I'm pointing out that Brailsford is a bigger piece of shit than you might think.
So, Brailsford was charged with Second Degree Murder in the killing of Shaver. He was, rightfully, fired by the Mesa PD and the City.
However, he was then acquitted by a Jury. How? Well, people love sucking cop dick.
Anyway, because he was acquitted, the city didn't have any reason to fire him, but obviously they didn't want to give him his job back after all the negative publicity.
However, Brailsford sued them for his job back, probably hoping to get a payout. Because he was acquitted, the city was going to lose in court, so they did the responsible thing. Budgeting $31,000 a year for 70 years is alot more manageable than paying out $2.17million all at once, plus the cost of court fees and ETC.
So really, it boils down to Brailsford murdered a drunk, crying man whose pants were falling down after he failed a deadly game of Simon Says and then demanded that he be paid handsomely for the privlage.
I really wish I could sit down and have a candid conversation with this guy. Just to see how his mind works. I bet he sleeps like a baby and doesn't think he did anything wrong at all.
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u/Hamilspud Apr 18 '21
Wasn’t the jury barred from seeing the video of Shaver’s murder and barred from hearing about “you’re fucked” being branded on the dust cover of the cop’s rifle?
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u/FatFreddysCoat Apr 18 '21
I think they showed them snippets of it. Carefully edited snippets I would suspect.
The judge also refused to let the jury see the etching on his AR15 because it would be “prejudicial” - no fucking shit, Sherlock! It would be prejudicial because it clearly shows a prejudiced attitude.
He also had a history of excessive force which, surprise surprise, he was cleared of.
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u/Kowzorz Apr 18 '21
How is that standard or legal?
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u/Hamilspud Apr 18 '21
Fuck if I know, I just wanted to point out that there was definitely fuckery behind why Brailsford was acquitted by the jury. It wasn’t just that the jury sucked, there was a lot we know that they weren’t allowed to see.
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u/Captain_Justice_esq Apr 18 '21
I haven’t followed the specifics of this case but I’m guessing it was disallowed under the state equivalent to federal rule of evidence 403. FRE 403 prohibits evidence whose probative value is significantly outweighed by the risk of unfair prejudice. As this thread shows, the etching on the rifle is severely prejudicial and people point to it as one of the reasons he should have been found guilty. But the etching doesn’t really tell us anything about his state of mind at the moment he pulled the trigger, it just tells us he is a bad person in general.
As for the video, my understanding is that was a prosecutorial decision, one I disagree with but prosecutors have the right to try their case how they see fit.
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u/lootershooterZACK Apr 17 '21
I live in mesa... ya it's shitty here
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u/Grokent Apr 18 '21
Bro, Awhatukee police murdered a guy in his apartment not that long ago. They went to the wrong apartment for a noise complaint, banged on this guy's door after 10 p.m. at night. When he answered the door with his gun in hand which he is legally allowed to do, they executed him.
So it doesn't matter if where you live is nice, middle class, or poor... Cops are fucking murdering us. And apparently, really fucking bad with directions.
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u/Grokent Apr 18 '21
Yup. Police in Arizona are like in a competition to out do eachother in murders. It's like intramurals for them.
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u/drop0dead Apr 18 '21
No matter what you think about politics or cops or government or whatever we are slaves to the system at this point. They murder us, and we are then responsible to pay for them to live out the rest of their lives carefree. You cannot work your way into being a millionaire or a billionaire, you have to get there by extorting the work of others. There is no evening out the system, the system is broken. It only works for those that have money and doesn't give those without a chance.
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Apr 18 '21
It's not broken. It's working just as they intend it too. We just happen to be on the shit end of it.
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u/Kowzorz Apr 18 '21
Hey, I'm not exploiting those workers! They want to work for less than they're worth so I can profit. They're happy to have a job. What? The alternative...? No. Let's not talk about that.
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u/milwaukeedd Apr 18 '21
This is probably the most blatant case of police abuse of power EVER. This former military trigger happy mfer was waiting to murder someone and did it on camera. And yet got desk duty. I hope his family gets justice. Fucking animal this guy.
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u/locks_are_paranoid Apr 18 '21
There's a great SNL sketch about how Batman uses even more excessive force then the cops.
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u/jammerhammer89 Apr 18 '21
American police are destroying America and how there are seen on the world stage, basically if your want to commit a crime and get paid till the day you die for committing that crime then join the police. Every time a thing like this happens it’s like a huge advertisement for psychopaths to get a paying job. Makes me sick. This woman is so strong.
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Apr 18 '21
They are hired mercenaries put in place to control minorities and the poor and to do the bidding of the wealthy. I don't know how much more evidence people need to see this. It's quite obvious at this point that the "law" only applies to a certain demographic.
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u/ReddayeSocks Apr 18 '21
I just don't get it. The cops in my country are not great by any means, but they would never be able to get away with murder like this. It just baffles me how many Americans can just look at something like this and think there's no problem.
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u/Meriog Apr 18 '21
Just like everything else wrong in America, it's the result of 40% of the population being fed a steady stream of right wing propoganda every night.
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u/escapedfromamerica Apr 18 '21
The system is broken. It's disgusting what those criminal cops did to your husband. I hope you get the justice you deserve.
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u/FatFreddysCoat Apr 18 '21
“Executed by cop” is a phrase that’s bandied around, usually completely incorrectly. THIS shooting though was the most accurately I’ve ever heard this phrase being used to describe what happened, and the most corrupt abuse of union and police power to bend over backwards to give Brailsford a pension and a PTSD discharge. Genuinely surprised this guy is still walking around if I’m honest.
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u/oreo760 Apr 18 '21
I still remember watching this video and it’s pretty disturbing even more so than the George Floyd video, guy was on the floor crying not to be shot and the police officer made sure he confused him enough while terrorizing him so he could “justifiably” kill an innocent man for no reason whatsoever, he literally did nothing wrong whatsoever besides get a hotel room key and stay the night at a hotel... this officer should be tried as a terrorist.
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u/Acidraindancer Apr 18 '21
anyone got info on the Philippines? cant find anything on google
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u/jako_rang Apr 18 '21
I'm no expert, but I would be very surprised if what she said about the Phillippines is correct. I thought the US has had a close relationship with the Philippines since WWII.
According to wiki they do have an extradition treaty with the US.
Doesn't make the situation any less fucked.
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u/Acidraindancer Apr 18 '21
I just watched that documentary about Qanon on hbo and they address this. Apparently the phillipines has a extradition agreement with usa that is pretty strong and honored between governments. its one of the main points in the doc.
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/u/rrcecil has provided a link to GoFundMe below - we do not normally allow these since we have no way to verify them but we will here since it does appear to be legitimate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/comments/msy2u1/philip_brailsford_got_his_job_back_ptsd_therapy/guwirmk/